Hi Chris,

I'm not against that a database is created because that is a very good thing to manage the whole thing and improve the network and
to get a handle on things.
I started this discussion because we have much the fear that requested addresses (or even to be routed subnets) end up in /dev/null
or take a very long time.
I register these addresses in a very fast turnaround for my subnets if requested.
People have bad experiences in this respect with registering stuff as you have noticed in certain locations.

To go in the details

You can add subnets (Edit Gateway) to my gateways but I don't see any networks in "allocations" for me.
that means that be default the address coordination of my subnet(s) is assigned to the Regional/Country coordinator,
although I already do that for a very long time before your portal.

What happens if I request an allocation, you mentioned that because that is a crucial point..
Will I be listed as address coordinator in networks for that subnet at your portal so that any request by an end user for addresses in that subnet
are emailed to me instead of the regional or in our case the country coordinator?

(If approved by the powers to be)

73,

Bob VE3TOK


On 13-02-03 03:56 AM, Chris Smith wrote:
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Hi Bob,


I don't see much a need for the user to register depending on the situation.

Please don't get tunnel vision regarding gateways and the tunnelled IPIP network, that is just one part of it. There are other types of allocations and we need to ensure we have up to date contact details for the entity responsible for all allocated subnets.

Also, bear in mind that not all gateway operators are in a position to assist to the extent that you are, nor are all gateway operators prepared to be responsible for how their users behave, different countries operate in vastly different ways.

What we need to do is build up a database of people that are responsible for the IP addresses allocated. If a gateway operator is happy to take on that responsibility, then they can be allocated a subnet of IP's as an end user, the system then will not allow any further sub-allocations under them. That gateway operator can then distribute the IP's to their connected hosts as he/she see fit, but if there are any problems, as the saying goes - the buck stops with him/her.

Chris




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