In this case, as it is to provide an amateur radio club with a ham related service (assuming club members would use it generally for ham purposes of course) then I see no issue with that. The only caveat is that, as the named person on the LOA, you remain responsible for how the IPs are used, so you would want to protect yourself by ensuring there was a decent firewall in place and that club members adhere to agreed terms of use.
 
That being said, if this is *just* to bypass a draconian ISP and provide general internet access for your club, i.e. browsing the www etc, then it would be a terrible waste of IP address space as you could achieve the same result with a Vultr VM and tunnel from your club to the VM over a VPN link and NAT the VM’s single public IP. You don’t need 44net address space to do that.

Hi Chris,

Yes that all makes sense, thanks for clarifying everything.

Thanks
Matthew
2E0SIP
 

On Wed, Sep 27, 2023 at 6:18 PM Geoff Joy via 44net <44net@mailman.ampr.org> wrote:
The “license” being referred to in that section is the ARDC license to use the IP addresses assigned to the Ham for use under the TOS, not to the Amateur radio license assigned to him by his country.

Perhaps a better phrasing might be “…by ARDC within the limits allowed by the class of Ham license of the assignee and applicable regulations.”

This is a TOS that assumed applicable laws already prevail and the contract is between ARDC and the assignee and it doesn’t presume to describe the obligations of the assignee under his country’s laws and regulations.

Ultimately, it is not incumbent upon ARDC to provide advice or examples of acceptable use because it is the responsibility of the Ham license holder to know and inform himself of the regulations applicable to him under the terms he accepted when obtaining his amateur radio license.

-KE6QH-


On Sep 27, 2023, at 08:12, Mark Phillips via 44net <44net@mailman.ampr.org> wrote:


"Your license permits You to use certain addresses exclusively for the purpose of Amateur Radio communications and experimentation, or other special uses as may be agreed to by ARDC"

Erm  .... no it does not. I hold licenses in both the US and UK and nowhere in my license conditions does it say this. I think ARDC needs to modify this statement to something like "possesition of a amateur radio licence permits You to ....."

Mark G7LTT/NI2O

On Tue, Sep 26, 2023 at 10:55 PM Matthew H (2E0SIP) via 44net <44net@mailman.ampr.org> wrote:
Hi all,

The Terms of Service states:

"
Your license permits You to use certain addresses exclusively for the purpose of Amateur Radio communications and experimentation, or other special uses as may be agreed to by ARDC"

I was wondering if this was clarified anywhere with examples of acceptable use cases? A few examples that I'm curious if they're permitted or not:
  • Hosting a radio club website that's accessible from the public internet, including from non radio amateurs.
  • Providing general outbound internet access for radio amateurs connecting via RF, whether its AX.25 or WiFi operating on the allocated amateur radio frequencies
  • Hosting not strictly amateur radio services such as an IRC server for discussing cars, but it's only reachable from other 44net addresses and RF users
  • Providing general outbound internet access to servers and services that might need to pull software updates from non-radio amateur servers. 
  • Providing connectivity to a radio amateur related server such as a DMR Master, to other radio amateur related servers outside of 44net
Any guidance would be appreciated.

Matthew
2E0SIP
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