I can respond to group? I am blocked with N2nov



Hi Charles

I cannot find a way to post this on ARDC

Are they blocking users?

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From: g <gokirn@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, Sep 17, 2025 at 10:06 AM
Subject: Re: [44net] Re: [ardc] ARDC is Recruiting Volunteers for our 2026 Committees
To: Steve Stroh <steve.stroh@gmail.com>
CC: Charles J. Hargrove <n2nov@n2nov.net>, <main@ardc.groups.io>, AMPRNet working group <44net@mailman.ampr.org>


Steve
You did not say if they must be ?

  I applied and was denied.(John was a great man). So I am biased. In all my effort I was not accepting where grants went to when I was denied. Maybe we first need to see where grants are going to non experimental radio operators ( being called hams or amateurs are not in the intent of cooperating) I actually found it sad to see where. 
    We need past ampr people to be on the board and to discuss before we bring problems onto the public. 
   (Nov?)
  I will not walk away from Ampr and don’t expect to be banned. But we all know NOV has. It’s not a hobby and never has been after 911 when our abilities where taken away with also all our investments and hardware and friendships and yes credit and credibility and credentials.  Long live experimental radio. We give !

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On Wed, Sep 17, 2025 at 9:44 AM Steve Stroh via 44net <44net@mailman.ampr.org> wrote:
ARDC’s activities and especially grants (such as scholarships) aren’t solely related to Amateur Radio.

Steve Stroh (he / him / his)

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On Tue, Sep 16, 2025 at 12:52 Charles J. Hargrove via 44net <44net@mailman.ampr.org> wrote:
Shouldn't a volunteer for an amateur radio related organization actually
have an amateur radio license _before_ volunteering? Otherwise the group
gets diluted by those who don't know what being an amateur radio license
holder and active participant is all about.

"An amateur radio license OR a technical degree OR experience in digital
communications is required to serve in any volunteer role."

On 9/16/2025 3:23 PM, Rebecca Key via groups.io wrote:
> Hey Everyone,
> *We’re now accepting applications for our 2026 volunteer cohort, which 
> includes some new roles. Check out our latest blog post for more 
> details: https://www.ardc.net/join-ardcs-2026-volunteer-team/ <https:// 
www.ardc.net/join-ardcs-2026-volunteer-team/>.*
> *As always, if you have any questions, please don't hesitate to reach out!*
> *73,*
> *Rebecca KO4KVG*
-- 
Charles J. Hargrove - N2NOV
NYC-ARECS/RACES Citywide Radio Officer/Skywarn Coord.


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On Wed, Sep 17, 2025 at 9:51 AM Ian Redden via 44net <44net@mailman.ampr.org> wrote:

Constructive criticism is valuable, but dismissing others' contributions as incompetence doesn’t move us forward. If you believe you have deeper knowledge, a better leadership style, or ideas to improve our processes, I’d encourage you to put your own name forward for consideration.

Ian.


On Wed, Sep 17, 2025 at 10:35 AM Lin Holcomb via 44net <44net@mailman.ampr.org> wrote:
I disagree. This is the issue with a major amateur organization who has repeatedly hired incompetent leaders who act in their interests, not the organization. Limited searches result in limited results.

Lin Holcomb
 
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On Tue, Sep 16, 2025 at 4:12 PM John Burwell via 44net <44net@mailman.ampr.org> wrote:
Hi Charles,

Good question. Certainly, amateur radio activity requires a license. More broadly, it’s also helpful to know that a volunteer is familiar with the ham community, and a license definitely signals that. 

Some of our volunteer opportunities are not strictly ham-related, however, particularly in grant-making efforts, where we might benefit from contributions that could come from someone in an aligned or adjacent community. So yes, a ham license is helpful, and for some things, a ham license is going to be needed, but no, not every volunteer role needs to call for a license up front.

I know we’ve visited a similar question in the past, and some have a fairly exclusive view of ARDC’s mission, which no doubt reflects their own perfectly legitimate reasons for being involved. We certainly all find our way here by different paths. If the foundation's stated goals include bringing people in toward amateur radio (“digital communications” being at least one avenue), and if a volunteer interested in contributing thus finds their way toward being a part of the community, then it winds up being to everyone's benefit to welcome their curiosity and participation. In my view at least, it’s a great way to let someone see first-hand what being a ham is all about.

Thanks and 73


--
John Burwell - KI5QKX
44Net Program Manager
Amateur Radio Digital Communications (ARDC)




On Sep 16, 2025, at 14:35, Charles J. Hargrove via 44net <44net@mailman.ampr.org> wrote:

Shouldn't a volunteer for an amateur radio related organization actually
have an amateur radio license _before_ volunteering? Otherwise the group
gets diluted by those who don't know what being an amateur radio license
holder and active participant is all about.

"An amateur radio license OR a technical degree OR experience in digital
communications is required to serve in any volunteer role."

On 9/16/2025 3:23 PM, Rebecca Key via groups.io wrote:
Hey Everyone,
*We’re now accepting applications for our 2026 volunteer cohort, which includes some new roles. Check out our latest blog post for more details: https://www.ardc.net/join-ardcs-2026-volunteer-team/ <https:// www.ardc.net/join-ardcs-2026-volunteer-team/>.*
*As always, if you have any questions, please don't hesitate to reach out!*
*73,*
*Rebecca KO4KVG*
--
Charles J. Hargrove - N2NOV
NYC-ARECS/RACES Citywide Radio Officer/Skywarn Coord.

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