Of course when we would consider going to a discussion platform rather than a mailinglist,
we should, in honor of our former president, setup an NNTP (usenet) server with closed access
and a long retention time. Everyone can use their favorite newsreader, but unfortunately
searching article bodies is as problematic as with Mailman.

So indeed a email list with archiving seems a better option. But I would vote for a solution
that we can host ourselves instead of a "cloud service". Those may be terminated at any
time or the terms&conditions may change. We have our own IP space and hosting facilities
so self-hosted solutions should be no problem for us and are part of our core business.

Rob

On 4/22/22 04:51, David Ranch via 44net wrote:

I would vote for a migration to a groups.io email list compared to say Discourse, MattersMost, Slack, etc. Why? Searching the archives. No doubt, AMPR's stock Mailman's searching functionality is/was very poor but it could be made better. If AMPR wants to move the email lists to groups.io, that system has some pretty decent search abilities.

--David
KI6ZHD

On 04/21/2022 06:12 PM, Rosy Schechter - KJ7RYV via 44net wrote:

Thanks for the discussion, folks.

Have people enjoyed groups.io better?

Rosy Schechter - KJ7RYV
Executive Director
Amateur Radio Digital Communications (ARDC)
ampr.org

On 4/21/22 6:08 PM, Damien Gardner via 44net wrote:

Yeah I'm just adding my vote for please god, do NOT move to discourse. SAGE-AU moved to discourse a couple of years ago, and it killed the organisation. As it turned out, like 90% of the members REALLY like email, and had absolutely no interest in moving their conversations to a web message board. As much as discourse likes to say it supports email, it really doesn't do a good job of it, and with members cracking the shits and leaving, SAGE-AU went broke last year, and now we don't have a peak body for IT Professionals in Australia.

--DG

On Fri, 22 Apr 2022 at 11:03, Jim Kutsch KY2D via 44net <44net@mailman.ampr.org <mailto:44net@mailman.ampr.org>> wrote:

    Hi,
    Here's just one vote *NOT* to use Discourse. It's a discussion
    system, not email. So we have to go there to see if anything is new
    rather than just having info come in our inbox. For me (YMMMV) I
    find it like having an inconvenient PO Box that you have to
    intentionally go visit to see if anything is there vs. mail being
    delivered to my home mailbox.

    73 Jim KY2D

    -----Original Message-----
    From: Rosy Schechter - KJ7RYV via 44net <44net@mailman.ampr.org
    <mailto:44net@mailman.ampr.org>>
    Sent: Thursday, April 21, 2022 20:53
    To: 44net@mailman.ampr.org <mailto:44net@mailman.ampr.org>
    Subject: [44net] Re: Mailman migration

    Hey Jeff,

    Great question. As it turns out, we are in fact looking to switch to
    Discourse.

    https://www.discourse.org/ <https://www.discourse.org/>

    Curious if folks haved used it and like it.

    Rosy

    Rosy Schechter - KJ7RYV
    Executive Director
    Amateur Radio Digital Communications (ARDC)
    ampr.org <http://ampr.org>
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