Hi David,

Hey Chris,

I would urge you to get in touch and work with me to correct this. The bottom line is - if it’s not in the portal database, it’s free for assignment elsewhere.

This is not the case. I also have examples in my 44.4.0.0/16 subnet of active user allocations that existed before the portal was created. I have been reaching out to those users who have DNS entries but don't have portal entries to clarify the situation and try to get them to request to make a portal request for their previous allocation. This can be very difficult at time as people don't have email addresses in qrz.com or finding an email address via the Internet.

Putting it another way, I consider an IP/subnet to be either "in use" or "under review" if there is a DNS entry but nothing in the AMPR portal.

It is most certainly the case that there are many entries in DNS that do not have corresponding entries in the portal. However, the whole point of the portal was to have a way to manage the assignments. One of Brian Kantor’s main problems was not knowing when someone no longer required an assignment - if they lose interest, they tend not to bother letting anyone know and if the worst happens and they go SK then they clearly can’t let us know.

Brian’s decision was to have a cut off date of a year after the portal came online - if the end user hadn’t got in touch to claim their entry by then, the entry was considered not required. This 12 month period has long since expired (by over 8 years!) so if there is anyone that hasn’t claimed their assignment after over 8 years it is highly unlikely they will do so now, and if they do then they can always have it re-assigned.

Incidentally this is the reason behind the portal removing accounts (and assignments) after 12 months of not seeing the user logging in.

For anyone that is interested - the portal did originally have DNS management built in (actually it still does, it’s just disabled). Unfortunately there was no easy way of matching up DNS entries with accounts on the portal. Brian was still working on the best way to import and match the data when he left us.

The new portal will have DNS management live from the start (end users will be able to manage their own entries), building on Brian’s work we’ve figured out how to match up the majority of the wanted DNS entries, but when the new portal does eventually go live, there will be a window of opportunity (probably 12 months) during which folk will be able to claim their entries, after which they will be disabled (removed from the zonefile), at that point if anyone complains things have stopped working their entries can be re-enabled and assigned to their account. After a further period (probably another 12 months) the disabled entries will be removed.

We have literally thousands of DNS entries, my best guess is over 60% of them are redundant, it really does need cleaning up!

So I re-iterate my request to get in touch if anyone knows of any ARDC address space that is being used that is not registered on the portal. I am more than happy to work with anyone that needs to import assignments into the portal without having to go through the formal request/approve process.

73,

Chris - G1FEF

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