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Re: [44net] rip44d update
by kb9mwr＠gmail.com 15 Aug '13

15 Aug '13

Michael, At this point, ampr-ripd (C implementation) is the best thing out there in my opinion. Hessu, wrote the rip44d, and that required Perl and a multicast package to run. So running this on a WRT54G, for instance was probably not going to happen. I'd like to think with the C implementation, this could be a reality. Also, I am not sure, but do think the C implementation stands the greatest chance to run cross platform. Hessu's perl one was kind of locked to Debian installs. Again, it's all so new, I personally haven't had they time yet to try it on a bunch of different platforms. I actaully am not sure why someone would go with amprd over ampr-ripd. Perhaps others can comment. Steve

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by kb9mwr＠gmail.com 14 Aug '13

14 Aug '13

Here are some random thoughts: It would be interesting or maybe helpful if the ampr.org name server did some statistics collection. These stats could be used to help prune dead records? I am not sure how resource intensive that might be however. It looks like you can use Cacti in conjunction with BIND. It is also important that we have some idea what is on the amprnet, what it used for. The Michigan Digital Radio group has some basic activity polling : http://server1.nuge.com/~drg/network.html Perhaps even something that can be installed on gateways that promiscuously monitors well know ports/services, and can be configured to report activity to a central page? If nothing else can the gateway portion of the portal have some additional text boxes, so folks can explain things a bit more like the old resource.txt?

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??? ignored packet on IPIP Tunnel
by Luc Pernot 14 Aug '13

14 Aug '13

There is a message showing on my RPI gateway 44.135.96.17 tunnel TTY0 saying "ignored packet from 44.131.160.1: 520: 504" every 5 minutes or so. any suggestion how to resolve this... Luc VE3JGL in Ottawa

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Re: [44net] 44Net Digest, Vol 2, Issue 116
by Rob Janssen 13 Aug '13

13 Aug '13

> Subject: > Re: [44net] dd-wrt and ipip > From: > lleachii(a)aol.com > Date: > 08/13/2013 05:04 PM > > To: > 44net(a)hamradio.ucsd.edu > > > All, > > I think the reason that nodes on the 44 Network cannot reach me is that my router is not allowing connections from the Internet to pass through. > > My setup: > > Router 1 > WAN 76.114.216.250 <> LAN 192.168.x.x <> > > Router 2 > WAN 192.168.x.2 <> LAN 192.168.y.x > > AMPRGW > 192.168.y.5 > > In trying to setup IPTABLES commands to allow IPIP traffic, I've had no success thus far. > > On Router1: > iptables -t filter -I INPUT -p ipip -j ACCEPT > iptables -t filter -I FORWARD -p ipip -j ACCEPT > iptables -t nat -I PREROUTING -i vlan1 -p ipip -j DNAT --to-destination 192.168.x.2 > > On Router2: > > iptables -t filter -I INPUT -p ipip -j ACCEPT > iptables -t filter -I FORWARD -p ipip -j ACCEPT > iptables -t nat -I PREROUTING 1 -s 169.228.66.251 -p ipip -i vlan1 -j DNAT --to-destination 192.168.y.5 > iptables -t nat -I PREROUTING 2 -p ipip -i vlan1 -j DNAT --to-destination 192.168.y.5 > > Any ideas? > Your problem is the protocol number used for encapsulation, I think. The "ipip" protocol is protocol 94, the one that was registered mistakenly at a time when protocol 4, which does exactly the same, already existed. Now the protocol 4 is used, which is in /etc/protocols under its name "ip". So use -p ip or just -p 4. Rob

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Cisco/juniper configs?
by Bryan Fields 12 Aug '13

12 Aug '13

Greetings, I've been doing some work to get the IPIP tunnel information into a router on a daily basis, has anyone else automated this? I was wondering how the reachability of this from the global routing table of the public internet works, if at all. Everything I've been reading says this is all separate, but we do interconnect at a couple locations. I must admit I'm new to this, but is 44/8 intended to be totally separate a la the GRX network? Granted my use of this space is for high speed wireless networks on the ham bands, I have little interest in the 9.6 kilobaud TCP/IP packet radio. I've got some of the 900MHz FHSS gear hacked to run in a narrower channel, and I've been experimenting with running some of the 5ghz units in the ham band at 5cm (5mhz channel is able to do about 10mbit/s). My intention is to have it all work across hardware routers, ie cisco/ALU/juniper rather than maintain a bunch of linux boxes. Thoughts? -- Bryan Fields 727-409-1194 - Voice 727-214-2508 - Fax http://bryanfields.net

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Trouble setting static route with ampr-ripd
by Neil Johnson 12 Aug '13

12 Aug '13

I've been trying add the following route to my "44" table to insure that local packets get sent out the wireless interface. ip route add 44.50.128.0/24 dev wlan0 table 44 However, I can't get it to be added when the system restarts. Any suggestions would be appreciated. Thanks. -Neil -- Neil Johnson -N0SFH http://erudicon.com

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Re: [44net] Trouble setting static route with ampr-ripd
by Pieter Luteijn 11 Aug '13

11 Aug '13

When adding the route statement to the initialization sequence, make sure the wlan0 interface exists; don't put it too early in the sequence. Perhaps best to add it and its 'del' counterpart to the networking scripts that bring the wlan0 interface up and down, not to the rc-scripts? P. Sent from a mobile, sorry for any typoes... -------- Original message -------- From: Neil Johnson <neil.johnson(a)erudicon.com> Date: 2013/08/11 22:07 (GMT+01:00) To: AMPRNet working group <44net(a)hamradio.ucsd.edu> Subject: [44net] Trouble setting static route with ampr-ripd ip route add 44.50.128.0/24 dev wlan0 table 44 However, I can't get it to be added when the system restarts.

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SIP Service on AMPRnet
by Marc, LX1DUC 10 Aug '13

10 Aug '13

Dear YLs and OMs, I have installed a SIP service on sipwise.ampr.org. It allows SIP users to do voice & video calls, instant messaging (via SIP), screen sharing, etc. There is also support for voicemail, call forwarding and call forking (upto 5 user-agents (devices, softphones, etc) per account). The system accepts calls from outside, try sip:lx1duc@sipwise.ampr.org or sip:+883510001204400@sipwise.ampr.org. (I'm using iNUM numbers to provide a globally unique numeric identifier so that hardware phones can make calls to other stations as well, while it's possible to dial "lx1duc" from a numeric keypad, it's more convenient for the user to actually dial a number H-I-H-I.) I'm using it on my mobile via a softphone right now (I didn't have time to configure my hardware phone), but the plan is to use it on hardware phones in our club shacks in LX. You're welcome to test it and if you want/need your own account please contact me off-list. I'm also interested in peering with other SIP services as well, so if you're running one and you're interested in peering, please contact me off-list. 73 de Marc, LX1DUC

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Why rip44d?
by Michael E. Fox - N6MEF 09 Aug '13

09 Aug '13

This is a serious question: Why is everyone so enamored with and focused on using rip44d? Rip44d disadvantages: 1) Rip44d depends on getting the routes from a single source - amprgw, i.e. a single point of failure. 2) If that single source fails (as it did recently, for more than 12 hours), then the routes are gone, even though all of the other gateways may be completely reachable. 3) If you try to avoid that problem by timing out the routes slowly, then you might as well have a static list. It seems to me that periodic downloading of the encaps file, followed by the ip.munge scripts is a far better approach. Advantages: 1) You can define how often you want to download the file, based on how quickly you want to discover new gateways. For me, once nightly is fine. But it could be more often. 2) If the download of encaps fails, I continue using the same routes I had before until the next download attempt. This happens every once in a while - maybe once a month, for whatever reason. But no connectivity is lost. 3) If amprgw fails, the direct tunnels to all other gateways are unaffected. i.e. Single point of failure eliminated. Disadvantages: None that I can see. So I fail to see why everyone is so enamored with rip44d. Please explain. Thanks much, Michael N6MEF

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bad ip address?
by Don Moore 09 Aug '13

09 Aug '13

Whoever is operating (if valid) 176.9.140.86 name = ampr-gw.fks-de.ham.lu please cease and desist sending data using the following encap line. 11:30:13.339166 IP 176.9.140.86 > 192.168.1.150: IP 0.0.0.0.5678 > 255.255.255.255.5678: UDP, length 115 (ipip-proto-4) 73, Don - ve3zda

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