28 Jul
2021
28 Jul
'21
12:04 p.m.
On 28 Jul 2021, at 14:02, Tony Langdon via 44Net
<44net(a)mailman.ampr.org> wrote:
On 28/7/21 9:51 pm, Rob PE1CHL via 44Net wrote:
A lot of people out there not only don’t want, but also can't use the equipment that
you use, for whatever reason. A lot of people out there don’t know what a VLAN is, or what
DHCP is, or what a VPN is. They are also not interested in learning that, just so they can
access X’s EchoLink Proxy or Y’s webSDR..
What we want is to make sure that the network we create is open to as many people as
possible, regardless of knowledge, background, location, financial status, etc. By
definition, this means that the bar must be as low as possible to join. That’s what we’re
trying to do. Decrease this barrier. We don’t want to enforce static routers, or brands,
or routers, we only want to decrease the barrier, as much as we can.
The current proposal accommodates for all users, both new and inexperienced all the way to
Internet experts. At no point did we say we’re building a network only for people with
static routes. That’s not what we want to do. We’re not prioritizing and discriminating
against anyone based on network equipment or networking knowledge.
I hope this clears up things,
Antonis
In all networks I manage it is the same. I think
it is very unwise to design a network
based on capabilities of ISP routers, as these vary widely and can change outside our
control.
I agree. I like to have control of the capabilities of any specialised
routers that I use, and a separate Raspberry Pi is one way to do that.
My network also ensures that only devices which need 44net access get
it. If I ever have a need for a wifi device like a phone or laptop to
get such addresses via DHCP, I'll work something out, to physically or
logically separate the networks enough to allow 44net DHCP. That's not
a problem I currently have.
Having an extra device (Raspberry Pi or similar, MikroTik router or similar) or at worst
some
code running on a PC (VPN client) is the way to go. Routing by ISP router isn't.
More flexible that way, and works for me. I also have a /28 of
commercial ISP space routed here via VPN, which is used by a select few
hosts. I could never run my network entirely on standard end user routers.