Eric,
Today, the list of tunnels, whether distributed by the encaps file or via RIP, are really
just a list of whatever is configured in the portal. Even though they may be distributed
by RIP, RIP is being used merely as a distribution mechanism. The existence of an entry
in the list tells you nothing about whether that tunnel is actually up or not -- only that
it has been configured in the portal. So, even if there were multiple RIP speakers,
you'd get the same info except for the main gateway/default route.
What I think you're describing is more like a route reflector such as are used in
Internet BGP networks. The clients would identify themselves to the main gateway, and the
main gateway would reflect that info back to all other clients. That would provide the
dynamic routing that would be helpful. And, if the clients could announce additional
routes to the server, we could have dynamic alternate routes. Couple that with regional
reflectors and the option to listen to more than one reflector so you can get dynamic
default route, and I think we've got something.
The code for BGP route reflectors is public domain, so I wonder if it makes sense to adapt
it to RIP.
Michael
N6MEF
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-------- Original message --------
From: Eric Fort <eric.fort(a)gmail.com>
Date: 08/27/2013 1:33 AM (GMT-08:00)
To: AMPRNet working group <44net(a)hamradio.ucsd.edu>
Subject: Re: [44net] Multiple gateways for same route
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ok, multiple static routes to the same place I can see why not. We do have
dynamic routing available to us though via RIP. Would RIP or another
routing protocol not handle this in the case of the route being unreliable
and drop that route? Why must routes be persistent rather than dynamic?
In a larger sense and I realize we're not there yet it would seem that
rather than having to know the routes to all other 44net hosts from boot it
would be much easier to have each area (for instance each /16 or maybe in
some cases each /24) to have a designated router (say at .1) or possibly
use multicast to discover one's local router. thus the initial config is
simplified as it has a single route to the 44net gateway for it's area from
which it may discover via dynamic routing other routes. no more need to
manually distribute and update a routing table. This seems to be something
to work towards.
On Thu, Aug 15, 2013 at 7:55 AM, <Bob(a)qbjnet.com> wrote:
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No they shouldn't both be allowed. There isn't a way to dynamically choose
the
route based on whether one or the other connection is up. Packets sent to
the
down route are simply lost.
Regards,
Bob
"Eric Fort <eric.fort(a)gmail.com> says:"
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are these 2 entries for a single route or 2 separate routes to a single
destination? It seems to me they are actually separate redundant routes
to
the same /21. should redundant routes not be
allowed? It would seem
quite
the reverse that redundancy being useful and
importaint these ought to be
allowed to stand so long as they are valid routes to the specified /21.
Eric
AF6EP
On Thu, Aug 15, 2013 at 2:54 AM, G1FEF <chris(a)g1fef.co.uk> wrote:
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> Hi Marc,
>
> No, there should not be two entries for one route and the portal should
> not allow this to happen, so I will look into how it occurred and
amend the
> code as necessary.
>
> Thanks,
> Chris
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