11 Jul
2015
11 Jul
'15
8:44 a.m.
Sorry, gotta say it:
21st century and BBS??
There's something here about stones and glass houses.
On Jul 11, 2015 8:47 AM, "William Lewis" <kg6baj(a)n1oes.org> wrote:
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> 21st Century and SMTP ??
>
> Pretty wrong, so I think you don't know anything about H-Addressing.
>
> First off, SMTP (email) is just like someones home phone number. If you
> dial the wrong phone number, you either get the wrong house, or you get
> none at all. Same with email. If you don't have the 100% correct email
> address, the message doesn't get through at all, or winds up in the wrong
> persons in-box.
>
> With H-Addressing, YOU DON'T HAVE TO KNOW THE EXACT ADDRESS!
>
> That's one of the many beautiful things about packet messaging forwarding.
>
> Let me explain.... My packet address looks like this
> KG6BAJ(a)KG6BAJ.#NCA.CA.USA.NOAM.
>
> The ".#NCA.CA.USA.NOAM" is the Hierarchical part of the address. The
> ".#NCA"denotes SUBSECTION of the state (in this case Northern CAlifornia),
> then the state "CAlifornia (.CA)", then the Country (.USA), then the
> continent of North America (.NOAM).
>
> With HAddressing, Someone really doesn't need to know the precise address
> like you do with phone & email (The SMTP you refer too). Someone wants to
> send me packet mail, they really only need just a part of my address, which
> they could guess by running my callsign through something like QRZ. Someone
> could send me a packet mail addressed to "KG6BAJ@.#USA.NOAM" (notice the
> huge difference from KG6BAJ(a)KG6BAJ.#NCA.CA.USA.NOAM).
>
> Properly configured NOS/FBB/Misc full service BBS's then can at least
> determine that the message is intended for USA, in North America, and
> forward the message along.
>
> Since my BBS is in fact located within USA, in North America, then I'll
> get the message, and drop it in the correct mailbox.
>
> Try doing that with an SMTP (email) message. Just won't work.
>
> To those who don't fully understand the brilliants of Hierarchical I
> suppose it would seem antiquated. But nothing else gets that message
> through like packet radio and H-Addressing.
>
> And one another note, you state all NOS stations run SMTP. Also not true.
> It depends on if the sysop has built it in at time of compiling it features.
>
> And..... not all Full-Service BBS's run NOS.
>
> Bill Lewis,
> KG6BAJ
>
>
> At 05:51 PM 7/10/2015, you wrote:
>
>> Jerry, Are you talking about the BBS Hierarchical Addressing Protocol
>> that is common with people running NOS BBS'es?
>> ftp://ftp.tapr.org/bbssig/recommendations/hierarchical
>> In all honesty from what I remember it's a lot of manual configuration,
>> that really seems quaint to me since all the NOS programs also speak SMTP,
>> the standard today.
>>
>> It would seem the same could be accomplished using SMTP standards by
>> setting up some mail aliases. I'm going to recommend the TAPR NOS-BBS list
>> for (Hierarchical forwarding) things of the non 21st century:
>>
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