Re: [44net] ampr.org mail

One last question. If I address mail as callsign(a)bbs.ampr.org where callsign and bbs are active users and bbs, will this mail go anywhere in the ampernet? Providing the routing is active. Jerry, N0MR -----Original Message----- From: Rial Sloan Sent: Saturday, July 11, 2015 8:44 AM To: AMPRNet working group Subject: Re: [44net] ampr.org mail (Please trim inclusions from previous messages) _______________________________________________ Sorry, gotta say it: 21st century and BBS?? There's something here about stones and glass houses. On Jul 11, 2015 8:47 AM, "William Lewis" <kg6baj(a)n1oes.org> wrote: > (Please trim inclusions from previous messages) > _______________________________________________ > 21st Century and SMTP ?? > > Pretty wrong, so I think you don't know anything about H-Addressing. > > First off, SMTP (email) is just like someones home phone number. If you > dial the wrong phone number, you either get the wrong house, or you get > none at all. Same with email. If you don't have the 100% correct email > address, the message doesn't get through at all, or winds up in the wrong > persons in-box. > > With H-Addressing, YOU DON'T HAVE TO KNOW THE EXACT ADDRESS! > > That's one of the many beautiful things about packet messaging forwarding. > > Let me explain.... My packet address looks like this > KG6BAJ(a)KG6BAJ.#NCA.CA.USA.NOAM. > > The ".#NCA.CA.USA.NOAM" is the Hierarchical part of the address. The > ".#NCA"denotes SUBSECTION of the state (in this case Northern CAlifornia), > then the state "CAlifornia (.CA)", then the Country (.USA), then the > continent of North America (.NOAM). > > With HAddressing, Someone really doesn't need to know the precise address > like you do with phone & email (The SMTP you refer too). Someone wants to > send me packet mail, they really only need just a part of my address, > which > they could guess by running my callsign through something like QRZ. > Someone > could send me a packet mail addressed to "KG6BAJ@.#USA.NOAM" (notice the > huge difference from KG6BAJ(a)KG6BAJ.#NCA.CA.USA.NOAM). > > Properly configured NOS/FBB/Misc full service BBS's then can at least > determine that the message is intended for USA, in North America, and > forward the message along. > > Since my BBS is in fact located within USA, in North America, then I'll > get the message, and drop it in the correct mailbox. > > Try doing that with an SMTP (email) message. Just won't work. > > To those who don't fully understand the brilliants of Hierarchical I > suppose it would seem antiquated. But nothing else gets that message > through like packet radio and H-Addressing. > > And one another note, you state all NOS stations run SMTP. Also not true. > It depends on if the sysop has built it in at time of compiling it > features. > > And..... not all Full-Service BBS's run NOS. > > Bill Lewis, > KG6BAJ > > > At 05:51 PM 7/10/2015, you wrote: > >> Jerry, Are you talking about the BBS Hierarchical Addressing Protocol >> that is common with people running NOS BBS'es? >> ftp://ftp.tapr.org/bbssig/recommendations/hierarchical >> In all honesty from what I remember it's a lot of manual configuration, >> that really seems quaint to me since all the NOS programs also speak >> SMTP, >> the standard today. >> >> It would seem the same could be accomplished using SMTP standards by >> setting up some mail aliases. I'm going to recommend the TAPR NOS-BBS >> list >> for (Hierarchical forwarding) things of the non 21st century: >> >