Re: [44net] ampr.org mail

Mail should go to whoever has the mx record in dns for (Callsign).ampr.org. Pardon my brevity, as I'm on a smartphone. Sent through via axMail-fax by N1URO. Sent with AquaMail for Android http://www.aqua-mail.com On July 11, 2015 10:01:58 AM "Lakenet" <n0mr(a)lakenet.com> wrote: > (Please trim inclusions from previous messages) > _______________________________________________ > One last question. If I address mail as callsign(a)bbs.ampr.org where callsign > and bbs are active users and bbs, will this mail go anywhere in the > ampernet? Providing the routing is active. > > Jerry, N0MR > > -----Original Message----- > From: Rial Sloan > Sent: Saturday, July 11, 2015 8:44 AM > To: AMPRNet working group > Subject: Re: [44net] ampr.org mail > > (Please trim inclusions from previous messages) > _______________________________________________ > Sorry, gotta say it: > > 21st century and BBS?? > > There's something here about stones and glass houses. > On Jul 11, 2015 8:47 AM, "William Lewis" <kg6baj(a)n1oes.org> wrote: > > > (Please trim inclusions from previous messages) > > _______________________________________________ > > 21st Century and SMTP ?? > > > > Pretty wrong, so I think you don't know anything about H-Addressing. > > > > First off, SMTP (email) is just like someones home phone number. If you > > dial the wrong phone number, you either get the wrong house, or you get > > none at all. Same with email. If you don't have the 100% correct email > > address, the message doesn't get through at all, or winds up in the wrong > > persons in-box. > > > > With H-Addressing, YOU DON'T HAVE TO KNOW THE EXACT ADDRESS! > > > > That's one of the many beautiful things about packet messaging forwarding. > > > > Let me explain.... My packet address looks like this > > KG6BAJ(a)KG6BAJ.#NCA.CA.USA.NOAM. > > > > The ".#NCA.CA.USA.NOAM" is the Hierarchical part of the address. The > > ".#NCA"denotes SUBSECTION of the state (in this case Northern CAlifornia), > > then the state "CAlifornia (.CA)", then the Country (.USA), then the > > continent of North America (.NOAM). > > > > With HAddressing, Someone really doesn't need to know the precise address > > like you do with phone & email (The SMTP you refer too). Someone wants to > > send me packet mail, they really only need just a part of my address, > > which > > they could guess by running my callsign through something like QRZ. > > Someone > > could send me a packet mail addressed to "KG6BAJ@.#USA.NOAM" (notice the > > huge difference from KG6BAJ(a)KG6BAJ.#NCA.CA.USA.NOAM). > > > > Properly configured NOS/FBB/Misc full service BBS's then can at least > > determine that the message is intended for USA, in North America, and > > forward the message along. > > > > Since my BBS is in fact located within USA, in North America, then I'll > > get the message, and drop it in the correct mailbox. > > > > Try doing that with an SMTP (email) message. Just won't work. > > > > To those who don't fully understand the brilliants of Hierarchical I > > suppose it would seem antiquated. But nothing else gets that message > > through like packet radio and H-Addressing. > > > > And one another note, you state all NOS stations run SMTP. Also not true. > > It depends on if the sysop has built it in at time of compiling it > > features. > > > > And..... not all Full-Service BBS's run NOS. > > > > Bill Lewis, > > KG6BAJ > > > > > > At 05:51 PM 7/10/2015, you wrote: > > > >> Jerry, Are you talking about the BBS Hierarchical Addressing Protocol > >> that is common with people running NOS BBS'es? > >> ftp://ftp.tapr.org/bbssig/recommendations/hierarchical > >> In all honesty from what I remember it's a lot of manual configuration, > >> that really seems quaint to me since all the NOS programs also speak > >> SMTP, > >> the standard today. > >> > >> It would seem the same could be accomplished using SMTP standards by > >> setting up some mail aliases. I'm going to recommend the TAPR NOS-BBS > >> list > >> for (Hierarchical forwarding) things of the non 21st century: > >> > >