Re: [44net] A new era of IPv4 Allocations

Hi Egbert, If we read the proposal and answers from Antonio, then the following statement you made is not correct: -- 2.) 44.128/10 can talk to 44.128/10 - talks to 44.0/10 via the PoPs (without NAT!) --> only ONE routing entry. Intelligence is in the PoPs -- 44.128/10 CANNOT talk to 44.0/10. 44.128/10 is, in their vision, a completely separate network, which can only be reached via RF. And to communicate with 44.128/10 you would need a new subnet within 44.128/10 ON TOP of your 44.0/10 subnet. So this makes routing in "home routers" (of which most ISP routers/modems cannot add any kind of static routes) more complex as you'll have 2 static routes to take care of and monitor. 73 Ruben ON3RVH -----Original Message----- From: 44Net <44net-bounces+on3rvh=on3rvh.be(a)mailman.ampr.org> On Behalf Of DD9QP Egbert via 44Net Sent: Friday, July 30, 2021 10:44 To: 44net(a)mailman.ampr.org Cc: DD9QP Egbert <dd9qp(a)db0res-svr.ampr.org> Subject: Re: [44net] A new era of IPv4 Allocations Hi all TNX to Antonious for his explanations. As far as I understand the whole bunch: 1.) 44.0/10 can talk to the whole world - whole world can talk to them This implies that 44/10 can talk to 44.128/10 via the PoPs (without NAT!) --> only ONE routing entry. Intelligence for this is in the PoPs. 2.) 44.128/10 can talk to 44.128/10 - talks to 44.0/10 via the PoPs (without NAT!) --> only ONE routing entry. Intelligence is in the PoPs Consequenses: - Issue of not knowing which networks are direct bgp and which are not has completey gone for both groups. - No multiple routing entries in "primitive" home-routers any more - Existing NAT-Issues (e.g. echolink) are gone - No separation inside the 44net-community any more: full connectivity - thoughts about technical solutions (e.g. PoPs) have been done and could be adopted - there is no "either...or" , the proposal is open In my opinion this is a very consistent concept and it would be a great advantage for the whole community. Therefore I think it is worth to do some "house-cleaning" (call for renumbering) by the ARDC _before_ setting up the technical solutions for this approach. 73s de Egbert DD9QP Am 30.07.21 um 08:34 schrieb Ruben ON3RVH via 44Net: _________________________________________ 44Net mailing list 44Net(a)mailman.ampr.org https://mailman.ampr.org/mailman/listinfo/44net