5 Apr
2021
5 Apr
'21
3:40 p.m.
RFC5737 doesn't support this use case which is why I asked in the first place about a
dedicated documentation block to begin with.
The point of having a 44Net documentation block is so that it's painfully obvious that
"YOUR ALLOCATION GOES HERE". The point of posting stuff on the GitLab server and
hopefully other places is precisely to "copy documentation" and use it. Yes,
there will always be those people who literally apply no thought to cutting-and-pasting in
something but we can't do anything about that. My interest is having configuration
that someone CAN literally copy/paste, make some very minor tweaks, and get their system
running. Using a random RFC5737 address block which likely most people have never heard of
isn't going to be helpful in reducing the learning curve and confusion.
However using the test space probably makes sense since that is the literal allocation
titles of RFC5737 are TEST-NET-1, -2, and -3.
For what it's worth, I will be using 44.128.50.0/24 for my stuff.
Jason
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Hi,
What is your plan for when this prefix ends up coming in to use? There will
potentially be networks using this and break reachability elsewhere due to
this.
There is also the fact that people often copy documentation exactly and use
it which can cause problems. This has been seen with CloudFlare[1] and
Cisco's documentation on ERSPAN.
it is not worth the possible problems and clean up operation required by
using a prefix outside of RFC5737. This RFC was created to avoid the issues
that I have mentioned and we should use it as intended wherever possible,
including in AMRP/44net.
[1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZF_vsSPcMRo
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anything.
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Hi Jason,
44.128.0.0/16 is reserved for testing and will never be allocated to
anyone, unless we run out of space ;-)
I see no reason why you can’t use addresses from that block.
73,
Chris
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On 5 Apr 2021, at 19:19, Jason McCormick via
44Net <
44net(a)mailman.ampr.org> wrote:
To clarify where something is "AMPRNet" vs "Interent". For example,
the
code I was going to post was specifically for handing out 44Net
addresses for an OpenVPN IP pool. It seems confusing and odd to use
the RFC5737 to document something specifically about AMPRNet like that.
>
>> -----Original Message-----
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> Subject: Re: [44net] IP Ranges for Documentation
>
> Jason,
>
> Is there any reason that you are opposed to using the RFC5737 space?
This
>> seems like exactly the kind of thing the RFC is for.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Alistair
>>
>>> On Mon, Apr 5, 2021 at 7:11 PM Jason McCormick via 44Net <
>>> 44net(a)mailman.ampr.org> wrote:
>>>
>>> Is there an allocation for documentation similar to RFC 5737? I
>>> was going to upload some stuff to the GitLab server but I wanted
>>> to generalize it so people didn't just copy/paste deploy stuff
>>> with my IP allocations in it. I looked on the portal but couldn't find
> If there isn't, I'd like to propose that
two /24s get set aside
> for documentation out of 44.0.0.0/9 that don't seem ripe for
> future use such as 44.0.192.0/24 and 44.1.255.0/24.
>
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