17 Jul
2022
17 Jul
'22
10:25 p.m.
Agree Matt, applications should be judged on their merit and actions,
not their business affiliations. And the flip side argument is that
being in charge of an ISP puts you in a unique position to help fellow
amateurs (as you have done).
If someone does abuse their allocation, then that should be passed on to
ARDC for them to follow up.
On 18/7/22 11:59 am, Matt - VK2FLY via 44net wrote:
Hi Rob,
Just thought I would give you some feedback on your comment. I
understand there seems to have been a breach of the rules in the case
Gary has brought to light. But i think it's a big jump to cast
dispersion on every Ham that happens to have connections with an ISP
that they are up to no good. When I first ask for my allocation (i
also am a principal at an ISP) i was told by my regional
co-coordinator that I was an evil ISP operator and my attempt to steal
44 net space would not be tolerated. I was perplexed by there attitude
as I was a legitimate licensed radio operator who wanted to use the
space for radio related things not only that I wanted to use my
position within the ISP to help other operators route 44 space for
their radio projects for free without the added latency and packet
size constraints of a vpn. I must say i went away very disheartened
with the whole 44 net idea.
About a year later i learnt that the regional co-coordinator had
moved on so I re-applied and got a /24. Since then I have routed a few
/28 /29's from my block to local hams and clubs for radio projects,
radio related web sites DMR and allstar networks all for free thought
the charity of the ISP that was mainlined by the radio community as
being evil.
I think it's a far leap to assume that just because an operator has
some involvement with an ISP that they are by default up to no good.
In fact some of us are interested in giving our services and vast
knowledge obtained in the commercial world to radio related projects
for free and in good faith sticking within the rules. There's always
some bad apples sure. But not everyone is up to no good.
Best regards 73
Matt
On 17/7/2022 10:52 pm, Rob PE1CHL via 44net wrote:
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73 de Tony VK3JED/VK3IRL
http://vkradio.com
Unfortunately it is not unheard of...
In the past I also got an allocation request for a /22 from a ham who
had not been active at all on AMPRnet before.
A little research showed that his son has an internet hosting company.
Not difficult to imagine what would have happened when I had assigned
that block.
Of course, when a coordinator does it by himself it is more difficult
to track. Maybe in the new system where coordinators will be less
bound to regions and other coordinators could oversee this
happening. But of course they would still have to do that and report
it.
Rob
On 7/17/22 12:50, F4HIN via 44net wrote:
In reality, after searching on the AMPR portal,
this block was
assigned to a ham. This ham is the national Hamnet coordinator of a
country, and the person using and misusing it is none other than his
son who is not a ham!
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