16 Sep
2017
16 Sep
'17
6:24 p.m.
Thanks for your comments Neil.
In fact the code for the portal is, as I have clearly stated before on this list, open
source, it is published under the permissive MIT license. I am more than happy to provide
a copy to anyone that asks at no cost and they are free to do whatever they want with it.
The fact that I choose to develop and maintain the production code on a password protected
subversion server is, I believe, what annoys Bryan. I don't really understand his
objections though as anyone that wishes to collaborate will be given credentials to the
server, as several people already have.
Just because software is open source does not automatically mean that it has to be
downloadable on a public web server.
Chris
> On 16 Sep 2017, at 23:04, Neil Johnson <neil.johnson(a)erudicon.com> wrote:
>
> Bryan,
>
> Who is "we"? I for one appreciate all the work that Chris has put into
> building and maintaining the portal.
>
> I don't know what Chris' circumstances are or what his reasons for not
> being able or willing to open source the portal code are, but I'd rather
> not have someone with your attitude run off one of the few active
> contributors to AMPRNet!
>
> Just throwing the the portal source code out on Github is not going solve
> anything. There still has to be a process in place for reviewing and
> accepting changes, testing them, and deploying them. I don't believe that
> Chris or Brian K have the time to take that on, and I definitely don't want
> someone your attitude involved.
>
> I've worked with Chris and Brian K. a couple of times and found them both
> easy to work with.
>
> Finally, this is after all just hobby! We all are volunteers and have
> other commitments that take priority. Attacking active contributors is not
> the way to keep them around or set an example that encourages others to
> step up and help.
>
> -Neil
>
>> On Sat, Sep 16, 2017 at 3:55 PM, Bryan Fields <Bryan(a)bryanfields.net>
wrote:
>>
>>> On 9/16/17 4:44 PM, Chris wrote:
>>> Ah that old chestnut, it's a shame you choose to continue to be rude and
>>> obnoxious even though you know nothing about me or my circumstances. You
>>> know if I thought I could actually trust you to have a private
>> conversation
>>> instead of broadcasting my private emails to a mailing list I would be
>>> happy to answer all your questions.
>>
>> I cannot have a private conversation as a means to stifle debate on a
>> subject
>> which affects all members of 44net.
>>
>> The only option we will consider is to release the source code. To do
>> anything else when claiming to be for openness is hypocrisy.
>>
>> You dangle a sword over all users of 44net and think we should be grateful
>> for
>> not dropping it upon us. You recognize the difference between leading
>> through
>> coercion and leading with better ideas, no?
>>
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>
>
>
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> Neil Johnson
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