22 Jul
2019
22 Jul
'19
4:44 p.m.
Ipip isn't the easiest to get connected with though there is enough help and docs
available to folks willing to put in the time. But to be honest I would say a bigger
deterrent to using 44 net is the nature of some of the discourse on here. I can't
claim to be a Saint myself but honestly some people's dialog is frankly appalling.
Yes there is some improvement to be made around technology but also some rules around
acceptable use of the mailing list should go hand in hand with it.
Marc
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On 22 Jul 2019, 23:30, at 23:30, Pedja YT9TP via 44Net <44net(a)mailman.ampr.org>
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On 22.07.2019 21:25, Brian via 44Net wrote:
BGP.
this
> That is because the new system is to be using
automatic routing
(with BGP or
> maybe OSPF when others can convince my that
would work better),
while the old
system
uses manual static routing managed by the portal.
When I helped set up one ISP, we used BGP to our peers and OSPF
internally. We found OSPF to be a tad faster in route updating than Not much but enough where it was noticable.
BGP has one disadvantage, it would relay to private ASNs which is bad
idea per se.
> *you* are not supposed to be spending that
money. It is to be spent
by those that
deploy
the VPN servers. Hopefully ARDC.
I don't think it's the duty or function of ARDC to do this. Sure, is a personal opinion of mine but I think funding
can be better spent
elsewhere such as new ham recruitment for example.
Well, the best step would be to make connecting easier, meaning,
anything but IPIP.
I believe complexity of connecting, requirement for very specific
and/or
custom hardware and software to get connected it one of the strongest
factors that keeps people away of 44net.
Until there is simple option to connect using plain, stardard and
widespread equipment, there will be no significant expansion.
> Because I think it is a waste of money (or a
waste of time) to do a
lot of research
> do potentially get a new product or another
innovation started, for
a community
> that is not interested in innovation and will
make up any motivation
to resist it.
I've seen your website and some of the projects you've done - very
impressive! I don't think it'd be a waste of time at all! I think
once a
good draft is made, some sort of script to help
those less
network-inclinded to help migrate.. and it'd be all good.
I disagree. Inventing new protocol is shooting not in the foot but in
the head.
We already have problem with IPIP that requires very odd
configurations.
Inventing new protocol that would not be supported in any existing
routers is nonsense.
We need the very opposite - to use protocols that are wide spread and
available in almost every device.
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