Rob et al;
On Sun, 2019-04-07 at 15:29 +0200, Rob Janssen wrote:
Well, that is the issue. We provide OpenVPN
certificates for local amateurs
to connect to our gateway, and there rarely is any issue with that.
(apart from people making 2 connections at the same time, which of course does
not work because the certificate is directly bound to the user's IP address)
For the ipip mesh this is not an issue, yet obviously some still get
confused. My dotun script asks 3 simple questions that many still can't
seem to properly answer even though it's commented. I think the
command-line environment of linux is what scares many away. Windows
natively can not handle ip protocol 4 as M$ has remapped it for another
service so that takes the GUI away. I suppose I could write tool as I've
done for other things such as the amprnet DNS robot, and how to forward
ip frames to another source... but the more these sort of tools are
created, the more human tools we create by not passing on our
knowledge... and when the "village elders" move on to another dimension
(aka: SK) the knowledge may become lost.
But I think what happens is: people hear about this
AMPRnet/HAMNET thing, they
google a bit for information, and they get lost in technical documents not in
their language, talking about something that is not their expertise, and
expecting them to enter information in forms that they do not understand at all.
I was just going through some of the portal pages and Chris has some
extensive online help next to the various text/check boxes in the "?"
circles. We can't hold Chris accountable for people not comprehending
what they read on the portal. The online help did seem pretty accurate
and well written.
Then it is not so surprising that some bogus
information ends up in the system
unless validation is improved, either in the software or in a manual step.
People will always make mistakes. I've seen some enter in their internal
192 or 10-net space IP as their commercial IP. Perhaps some sort of data
checker can be put in place? That may help.
The whole thing with RIP was definitely a good idea,
and much better than
regularly downloading and loading an encap.txt file.
However, what can be improved is the entering and maintenance of the data
that actually gets transmitted there.
As with any database, the data is only as good as how it's entered. I
believe there's some checks already in place but I don't know what more
can be done as I haven't seen the source - and that's also not to say
that the end user config has or can be verified either.
--
I won't be like a Texas official and call Ocasio-Cortez a bimbo
but she does think Roe vs Wade are two different ways to cross a river.
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73 de Brian N1URO
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