31 Mar
2014
31 Mar
'14
4:58 p.m.
Steve,
Huh? AMPRnet is already routed.
The entire 44.x space is already reachable from anywhere on the Internet via
the BGP peer router at UCSD. And I understand portions are also announced
via BGP elsewhere (mostly in Europe, as I understand it). So in that
respect, it's no different than any other public address allocation to a
global entity that announces a prefix with BGP at the "home office" and
(optionally) longer prefixes elsewhere.
But the entire AMPRnet is not contiguous except by the use of tunnels.
Connectivity within the local "islands" is routed. We happen to use a
combination of RIP (where needed) and OSPF in our part of the network. And
connectivity between the islands is routed over tunnel interfaces. The
options there are static or RIP. Again, this is not much different than a
corporation that uses VPN tunnels between sites. A tunnel is just another
interface to a router. Tunneling does NOT indicate a lack of routing.
The 44.x address space allows globally unique addressing within the ham
community. It would be impossible to do that with network 10 since it is
already used for other private address space. There is simply no way to
deal with all of the address overlaps. Surely anyone with even basic IP
routing knowledge can understand this.
So I don't understand what your concern is. What specific problem are you
trying to solve? In other words, what is it (specifically) that you can't
do today with the existing infrastructure?
Also, what type of services are you running today, and how many of each?
Michael
N6MEF
-----Original Message-----
From: 44net-bounces+n6mef=mefox.org(a)hamradio.ucsd.edu
[mailto:44net-bounces+n6mef=mefox.org@hamradio.ucsd.edu] On Behalf Of Steve
Wright
Sent: Monday, March 31, 2014 1:05 PM
To: 44net(a)hamradio.ucsd.edu
Subject: [44net] routable or private?
(Please trim inclusions from previous messages)
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If this is, " a hack to backbone a semi-private
network on top of the
public internet" then why do we need 44/8? Please explain why 10/8 would
not work just as well?
[....] if it's not going to be routable then why do we need 44/8? use
RFC1918 space and give 44/8 back. [...] We could attract many
into this hobby if we'd simply offer to be the teachers of the IP
networking craft using standards based methods used by everyone else
across
the internet.
PRECISELY.
Can we please make a decision on this and move ahead?
I'd like to know, one way or the other, because I sure aint interested in
all this private 44net stuff..
Is 44net routable or private?
Steve