28 Jul
2021
28 Jul
'21
6:18 p.m.
On 29/7/21 2:04 am, Antonios Chariton (daknob) via 44Net wrote:
A lot of people out there not only don’t want, but
also can't use the equipment that you use, for whatever reason. A lot of people out
there don’t know what a VLAN is, or what DHCP is, or what a VPN is. They are also not
interested in learning that, just so they can access X’s EchoLink Proxy or Y’s webSDR..
I think there comes a point where you can't lower the bar, because you
run into the limitations of dumbed down routers and other artificial
limitations.
Those of us running Internet facing services do our best to make sure
they're available to anyone with a standard Internet connection (Hello
BGP ;) ). When it comes to intranet or anything else similar, you're
going to need something more than the ISP supplied router in many cases.
In some ways, the easy case is the user who wants intranet access from
their phone - the phone's inbuilt VPN capabilities should do that
nicely, but at home, there comes a point where some knowledge is
required, so the user can make informed decisions. And there will also
need to be careful routing in the infrastructure to handle corner cases
like the user who runs 44.x intranet space on their LAN, using NAT to
the Internet, their router's VPN client to a PoP for intranet access,
and wanting to access Internet facing services.
And I believe the TAC proposal will address this, because presumably the
VPN would route only 44.128/10 through the VPN. It does rely on a
dumbed down router still having VPN capability and being able to change
the LAN IP and network.
But what about the intranet user who wants to access Internet facing
services? (this is already an issue in some cases anyway).
What we want is to make sure that the network we create is open to as many people as
possible, regardless of knowledge, background, location, financial status, etc. By
definition, this means that the bar must be as low as possible to join. That’s what we’re
trying to do. Decrease this barrier. We don’t want to enforce static routers, or brands,
or routers, we only want to decrease the barrier, as much as we can.
Yeah, fair
point, though I believe education is important. Rather than
just offering low barriers to entry, offer both the low barrier to entry
and education, so hams can make an informed decision as to whether
keeping things simple is for them, or if learning some basic networking
so they can implement a more complex solution better fits their needs.
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