28 Jul
2021
28 Jul
'21
11:27 p.m.
On 28 Jul 2021, at 15:16, g4ugm via 44Net
<44net(a)mailman.ampr.org> wrote:
No it doesn’t.
That’s why I am here for. I hope that through this conversation we can achieve that.
In the UK NO ISP (That I know of) provides a router
which such supports this. The main ISPs so British Telecom, Virgin, Plusnet, TalkTalk and
Sky all supply customised "own brand" routers.
These remove the ability to add static routes to the table. I ran into this issue a long
time ago as I run a Token Ring network for some vintage equipment and ended up buying a
Draytek router to fix the problem.
I understand that. But just because some ISP does not offer it, it does not mean that
others don’t. Why aim for a solution that covers all ISP routers? That’s not our goal.
We’re only saying that we found a way to allow *some* users with their ISP routers to
participate. And we thought that “some” is better than “none. We don’t make any promises
that your hardware will or will not work (work with what? ARDC’s PoPs? Mine?). We just try
to be as inclusive as possible and allow for as many users as possible to participate.
Those wanting to participate in IP over Radio need to
be involved and understand what they are doing.
I personally deplore this modern dumbing down, point and click operation. Radio should be
about technical exploration.
If you want to be involved in Amateur Radio Networking then you should have the
appropriate equipment and know how it works.
It is our belief that this is not completely true. There are many people that want to get
involved and understand but they’re just not there yet. There are other people that only
care about the Layer 7 services available on this network. There are people that just want
to provide Internet access to their repeater up to a remote mountain.
Not everyone joins this network with the same interests, capital, or goals. That’s one of
the first things we understood. And this is why our policy tries to be inclusive of
everyone, and do not block people.
We do not like gatekeeping. If we can help someone join and achieve their goal, then we
will be happy to do that. We aim to push the barrier lower.
Again, this is the opinion of the current TAC. Maybe the next one, or the Board, or anyone
else can disagree with this, and this is fine. But we have a duty to advise on what is
best for the community, and we cannot recommend something that we do not believe in.
Antonis