16 Sep
2017
16 Sep
'17
6:36 p.m.
Chris,
Sorry, I stand corrected.
Thanks for all your efforts!
-Neil
On Sat, Sep 16, 2017 at 5:24 PM, Chris via 44Net <44net(a)hamradio.ucsd.edu>
wrote:
> Thanks for your comments Neil.
>
> In fact the code for the portal is, as I have clearly stated before on
> this list, open source, it is published under the permissive MIT license. I
> am more than happy to provide a copy to anyone that asks at no cost and
> they are free to do whatever they want with it.
>
> The fact that I choose to develop and maintain the production code on a
> password protected subversion server is, I believe, what annoys Bryan. I
> don't really understand his objections though as anyone that wishes to
> collaborate will be given credentials to the server, as several people
> already have.
>
> Just because software is open source does not automatically mean that it
> has to be downloadable on a public web server.
>
> Chris
>
>
> > On 16 Sep 2017, at 23:04, Neil Johnson <neil.johnson(a)erudicon.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > Bryan,
> >
> > Who is "we"? I for one appreciate all the work that Chris has put
into
> > building and maintaining the portal.
> >
> > I don't know what Chris' circumstances are or what his reasons for not
> > being able or willing to open source the portal code are, but I'd rather
> > not have someone with your attitude run off one of the few active
> > contributors to AMPRNet!
> >
> > Just throwing the the portal source code out on Github is not going solve
> > anything. There still has to be a process in place for reviewing and
> > accepting changes, testing them, and deploying them. I don't believe that
> > Chris or Brian K have the time to take that on, and I definitely don't
> want
> > someone your attitude involved.
> >
> > I've worked with Chris and Brian K. a couple of times and found them both
> > easy to work with.
> >
> > Finally, this is after all just hobby! We all are volunteers and have
> > other commitments that take priority. Attacking active contributors is
> not
> > the way to keep them around or set an example that encourages others to
> > step up and help.
> >
> > -Neil
> >
> >> On Sat, Sep 16, 2017 at 3:55 PM, Bryan Fields <Bryan(a)bryanfields.net>
> wrote:
> >>
> >>> On 9/16/17 4:44 PM, Chris wrote:
> >>> Ah that old chestnut, it's a shame you choose to continue to be
rude
> and
> >>> obnoxious even though you know nothing about me or my circumstances.
> You
> >>> know if I thought I could actually trust you to have a private
> >> conversation
> >>> instead of broadcasting my private emails to a mailing list I would be
> >>> happy to answer all your questions.
> >>
> >> I cannot have a private conversation as a means to stifle debate on a
> >> subject
> >> which affects all members of 44net.
> >>
> >> The only option we will consider is to release the source code. To do
> >> anything else when claiming to be for openness is hypocrisy.
> >>
> >> You dangle a sword over all users of 44net and think we should be
> grateful
> >> for
> >> not dropping it upon us. You recognize the difference between leading
> >> through
> >> coercion and leading with better ideas, no?
> >>
> >> --
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> >>
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> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Neil Johnson
> >