Re: [44net] Testers/Consideration/Inquiry - Coordinating thePrivate ASNumbers

Hmm, there are also global IPv4 multicast addresses :-) Maybe it is worth some testing: 233.0.0.0/8 per RFC2770 - and here AMPR has its own 16 bit AS number, so 256 addresses could be available 234.0.0.0/8 per RFC 6034 - we could use 234.44.x.x in this scheme, even split to country level. If this would work, that would be great. But it depends on the ISP. -----Original Message----- From: Marius Petrescu Sent: Friday, March 25, 2016 20:58 To: AMPRNet working group Subject: Re: [44net] Testers/Consideration/Inquiry - Coordinating thePrivate ASNumbers (Please trim inclusions from previous messages) _______________________________________________ This sounds nice in theory. But you still need an initial database of peers to start the connections. And that means a single point of failure and you are back to square 1. The only way I see this feasible is to use IPv6 which offers global multicast groups. The nodes have only to send out some announcement of presence on that address, and everyone worldwide which is subscribed to that multicast group will get the announcements. But since IPv6 is inaccessible to most of the internet users (due to "not available", "I do not care if I have it" or "I don't want it"), it will have to wait. Marius, YO2LOJ -----Original Message----- From: lleachii--- via 44Net Sent: Friday, March 25, 2016 14:37 To: 44net(a)hamradio.ucsd.edu Cc: lleachii(a)aol.com Subject: [44net] Testers/Consideration/Inquiry - Coordinating the Private ASNumbers (Please trim inclusions from previous messages) _______________________________________________ ... - My router (and, I would assume those of many others that have been flashed, etc.) are capable of forwarding packets, regardless of source/destination IP. We could test the possibility of switching from a star (reliance on AMPRGW's 100% uptime for 'real-time' route updates) to a mesh, where we peer with those who choose, have a large connection, are physically interconnected to one another, etc. - (in the future) anyone, including those on the Public Internet, could volunteer to announce more specific routes for IPIP allocations (with the proper authorization requested by the allocation holder) and then maintain a tunnel, RF link, etc. - could connect to someone who could provide the AMPRGW. ... _________________________________________ 44Net mailing list 44Net(a)hamradio.ucsd.edu http://hamradio.ucsd.edu/mailman/listinfo/44net