6 Sep
2017
6 Sep
'17
1:41 a.m.
If we went down the path of selling off 44/8 (all or in part). I would
suggest that it go into a trust fund that could provide grants for
deploying networks (like HamWAN) and R&D for amateur specific hardware and
software. (Possibly some scholarships as well.)
If, indeed, the market price for a /8 is $300m -- if we would get a modest
3% return on the trust fund, that's still nearly $9 million / year for
amateur radio digital research, development, and deployment -- without
touching the principle.
On Tue, Sep 5, 2017 at 9:34 PM, Bill Horne <bill(a)horne.net> wrote:
On 9/5/2017 10:36 PM, John Ricketts wrote:
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On Sep 5, 2017, at 21:08, David Ranch <amprgw(a)trinnet.net> wrote:
I don't know who or what "owns" the ARDC, or what the legalities of
selling it's primary asset would be, but ...
If the corporation could collect large amounts of money for the 44/8
assignment, I'd vote to take the cash and kiss 44/8 goodbye: the IPv4 space
will become worthless within the next decade. If it's worth a significant
amount of money right now, then now is the time to cash it in: we hams
could continue to use 44/8, since ampr.net is probably the best
definition of a "detached" network, or just change to RFC1918 addresses.
The money would give ARDC options for the future: if the amounts mentioned
are obtainable, it would be possible to endow a trust fund that could
assure ampr.net a future. Of course, the hardest part would be
safeguarding the proceeds of a sale, but that's the same challenge that any
lottery winner faces, and there's plenty of good advice and many capable
people out there.
The ARDC *might* be in possession of a bag of magic beans. If that's the
case, I vote to plant them.
73,
Bill, W4EWH
Hello Mike,
. . .The 44/8 block will likewise become another hunk of
Having personal experience with selling legacy IP space, the money would
go to the corporation (ARDC) that owns the /8... not ARIN or the US
Government.
That money could be used for whatever the corporation wanted.
I am not suggesting the sale just sharing based on experience.
once-valuable junk, so unless the community
wishes to enjoy again the
bittersweet feeling of regarding that junk it would be advisable to
consider
engaging in some sales.
To what end? I believe we aren't here for the money. Even if we were
to sell off a bunch of /16s, where would that money go since we're
considered LEGACY? It wouldn't go back to Brian, or UCSD, any of us AMPR
users, or even any HAMs. No, it would go to ARIN or some other
bureaucratic part of the US government and just be absorbed in the "general
plan". Poof!
I completely understand the value of IPv4 addresses due to their
scarcity but I don't think that something we never paid for should be
charged an extreme premium for ($17.88 per IP). Call me a fossil but it
just rubs me the wrong way. My $0.02.
--David
KI6ZHD
All,