Re: [44net] (no subject)

(Please trim inclusions from previous messages) _______________________________________________ Actually, I did not say "loose". I said "lose". But I agree that we should use it properly. It isn't up to one person to say what properly is, though The world has come a long way since you could hide a little router at a big institution and route/control the entire world. Unfortunately as you know it is not spectrum and has no FCC (or similar) protection. It is not beyond comprehension for us to be approached and asked "nicely" to use it or lose it. If I am a Ham, and have the right to use the space, and it is provided to me over Non-Amateur-Radio means (i.e. Routed to me by my ISP over wireless, fiber, tin cans and a string), then I feel that I can and will use it for what I want. It is an IP address not a radio channel. We tie up over 16 million valuable addresses. Large companies have given up address space like this, for the greater good of the Internet. But WE need to keep every one of these addresses to connect up our little BBS's with 1.2k analog modems. Or maybe the odd one-in-a-million experimenter actually might use 56k. I would encourage us to use this resource to the maximum benefit of Hams, not sit on it so we can say "look at us, rest of the Internet, I have a /8 and you don't". I feel positive that we will come to some sort of conclusion that mill mostly satisfy everyone. Maybe we should begin a list of the wants and needs of at least this group so far. I wonder what sort of attention we would get if this whole story were posted over on /. or the like. Let's try to solve this properly and quickly and with as little amount of outside "help" if possible. Ralph 44 Net is not just for tunneling Use the allocation (right) or lose it, just like 220 -----Original Message----- From: Bjorn Pehrson [mailto:bpehrson@kth.se] Sent: Friday, June 08, 2012 2:32 AM To: AMPRNet working group; Ralph Subject: Re: [44net] OpenVPN I would rephrase that to "use the allocation right or loose it". Ham addresses (out of the 44/8 space) should be regarded as spectrum. You cannot use it commercially or you loose your license. Why would hams get to keep a /8 space if it is no different than other spaces? If you do not want to tunnel, arrange for the peering/transit you need. On 06/08/2012 02:25 AM, Ralph wrote: ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.2178 / Virus Database: 2433/5055 - Release Date: 06/07/12 _________________________________________ 44Net mailing list 44Net(a)hamradio.ucsd.edu http://hamradio.ucsd.edu/mailman/listinfo/44net -- Lin Holcomb Office: +1 404 806 5412 Mobile: +1 404 933 1595 Fax: +1 404 348 4250 <http://hamradio.ucsd.edu/mailman/listinfo/44net>