18 May
2021
18 May
'21
5 p.m.
I think we should not again make the (know known) mistake of having a private
address space and using a tunnel mesh to route it. It is not scalable and it
cannot be deployed except by IT buffs.
Hopefully we will sometime get a backbone network as was discussed half a
year ago, and it can be extended to use IPv6. It can use address space made
available by the hosters of the local routers so there is no need to arrange for
BGP announcement as we now need for IPv4. So it will be much less hassle.
Furthermore, those that do not want to use that backbone can advertise their
own IPv6 range (acquired from a capable ISP that does not change it every
day or applies port filtering to it), and it will just route automatically to the
remainder of the network without requiring tunnels or other difficult to grasp
concepts for the RADIO amateur (as opposed to the computer networking hobbyist).
They will only need to enter their IPv6 space into some portal entry, and do
not need to setup any special software or router.
Rob
On 5/17/21 9:57 PM, Steve L via 44Net wrote:
Well I once said it would be like we are now with IPv4
in terms of a
lack of infrastructure to deal with routing it. But that has likely
changed, or could be now that we have cash.
I had pointed out that we could and at that time might have been
better off using the IPV6 space provided by our internet providers,
and just registering those ham radio use addresses in a DNS, and doing
a while list approach to secure it.
(I still think an alternative automated DNS that one could register
like ar-dns.net by using the lotw certificate would be a good
project.)
However as some others else pointed out, internet providers block a
lot of ports and services. So tunneling of some fashion does
alleviate that. And as the internet continues with more and more
probes, political policies, and a general ipv4 shortage, this ISP
filtering and carrier grade NAT might make a larger use case for hams
to have ways around those restrictions to keep supporting their
internet connected ham radio stuff, i.e. IRLP, AllStar, etc