[44net] Re: ns.ardc.org access

On 10 May 2024, at 11:32, lleachii(a)aol.com wrote: Chris, I'm not sure you understand how profound your statement was or should be to all. Per our discussions on this thread, I understood the use case to be that access to ns.ardc.net be via 44net SRC IPs. Perhaps I misconceive that the IPENCAP users were being considered when the statement was made? So OK cool - this server sits on the Public Internet, without a [voluntary] tunnel. I previously inquired about it's location, etc. for these reasons (keeping in mind UDP delays discussed for NTP, DNS, etc.): config nat option src 'amprwan' option src_ip '44.60.44.254' option dest_ip '44.1.1.44/32' option target 'SNAT' option snat_ip '44.60.44.1' option name 'test' list proto 'all' Reasoning to explain the complexity - In addition to needing an IP rule to for the route to use AMPRNet, I then need to SNAT to use a Public IP 44net IP - because the server is not on AMPRNet. --- root@OpenWrt:~# tcpdump -vvvn -i tunl0 udp and port 123 and host 44.1.1.44 tcpdump: listening on tunl0, link-type RAW (Raw IP), snapshot length 262144 bytes 10:09:07.781705 IP (tos 0x48, ttl 64, id 11385, offset 0, flags [DF], proto UDP (17), length 76) 44.60.44.1.46695 > 44.1.1.44.123: [bad udp cksum 0x85b3 -> 0x9279!] NTPv4, Client, length 48 Leap indicator: (0), Stratum 0 (unspecified), poll 0 (1s), precision 0 Root Delay: 0.000000, Root dispersion: 0.000000, Reference-ID: (unspec) Reference Timestamp: 0.000000000 Originator Timestamp: 0.000000000 Receive Timestamp: 0.000000000 Transmit Timestamp: 1349083242.779565174 (1942-10-02T09:20:42Z) Originator - Receive Timestamp: 0.000000000 Originator - Transmit Timestamp: 1349083242.779565174 (1942-10-02T09:20:42Z) 10:09:07.981557 IP (tos 0x0, ttl 50, id 38178, offset 0, flags [DF], proto UDP (17), length 76) 44.1.1.44.123 > 44.60.44.1.46695: [udp sum ok] NTPv4, Server, length 48 Leap indicator: (0), Stratum 2 (secondary reference), poll 0 (1s), precision -22 Root Delay: 0.004333, Root dispersion: 0.039169, Reference-ID: 0x55c7d666 Reference Timestamp: 3924323032.642092258 (2024-05-10T09:43:52Z) Originator Timestamp: 1349083242.779565174 (1942-10-02T09:20:42Z) Receive Timestamp: 3924324547.884376446 (2024-05-10T10:09:07Z) Transmit Timestamp: 3924324547.884487523 (2024-05-10T10:09:07Z) Originator - Receive Timestamp: +2575241305.104811271 Originator - Transmit Timestamp: +2575241305.104922349 --- It now works. Transparency is key and I appreciate the response. So now the question truly begs. Since you know our IPs, why not make a firewall/access rule allowing them also (that's what I do, because it seems to have been done on the old gw.ampr.org)? It seems that we took an extremely circuitous route for me to determine the same information I inquired upon originally and had to learn through days of seeing connectivity errors relying on the statement. I'm glad it's clarified now. Many thanks and 73, - KB3VWG On Friday, May 10, 2024 at 05:47:41 AM EDT, Chris <chris(a)ardc.net> wrote: ns.ardc.net will provide authoritative DNS answers from any IPv4 or IPv6 address for ampr.org and the reverse zones it is authoritative for. From what you’ve said it may be that you are trying to query it from a host inside the IPIP Tunnel Mesh? In which case your query will need to traverse the gateway router at UCSD in order to reach ns.ardc.net which, although is on a 44Net IP address, is not connected to the IPIP Tunnel Mesh - it is on directly announced (BGP) 44Net address space. As you can only traverse the gateway router at UCSD if your host’s IP has an A record in ampr.org that is the most likely reason for what you are seeing. 73, Chris - G1FEF