[44net] BGP vs IPEncap

Greetings; On Mon, 2014-01-27 at 15:49 -0800, K7VE - John spake: Just my <$0.02> This isn't a single tunnel going to a single tunnel, our current design is that each point on the 44/8 network is a direct point to point route. The fastest route from here to there is a direct line, no matter where on 44/8 I go since I'm using a tunnel. We have already suffered (key word!) outages because of BGP or the like based issues where areas have suffered from various reasonings (router gone bad, route fat-fingered, etc). In the commercial world this works very well but we keep insisting we're a glorified ISP here and we're servicing commercial based IP sites. While I agree, any new piece of hardware in a "hardened" data center/NOC/etc would be a great place to house something, I'm extremely confused as to how BGP will fix/reboot/replace that old PC in someone's basement that's gone down. Will someone -=please=- explain this to me? Now if the issue is an old gateway that's servicing a larger block running some of the high speed wifi, then it's already a flaw of those creating this network by allowing inferior equipment to host their network rather than creating a gateway at a "hardened" data center... not the fault of a tunnel. My upstream already supplies BGP routes for me. If ABC internet becomes my 44-net "portal", and the path to them from my ISP goes from new england to virginia (mae east) and back up again, that's only adding a multitude of points of failure for me, where as my tunnel is more direct. [don't be surprised, a lot of that happens in this part of the country - mainly politically motivated for business competition] IMHO our current tunnelled system with RIP is the best system we've had in the 20ish years I've been with the amprnet. -- 73 de Brian Rogers - N1URO email: &lt;n1uro(a)n1uro.ampr.org&gt; Web: http://www.n1uro.net/ Ampr1: http://n1uro.ampr.org/ Ampr2: http://nos.n1uro.ampr.org Linux Amateur Radio Services axMail-Fax & URONode AmprNet coordinator for: Connecticut, Delaware, Maine, Maryland, Massachusetts, New Hampshire, Pennsylvania, Rhode Island, and Vermont.