28 Jan
2014
28 Jan
'14
10:15 p.m.
On Tue, 28 Jan 2014, Jay Nugent wrote:
(Please trim inclusions from previous messages)
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On Tue, 28 Jan 2014, YT9TP - Pedja wrote:
I guess it depends on your definition of 'hacking' and
'expensive'. Just
as I was taught that 'Chaos' is any system of order that I don't yet
understand, 'hacking' is any technique of programming that I haven't yet
learned. I can learn anything, if I just put my mind to it...
Even the inexpensive appliance routers will 'pass' ipencap if you
declare your gateway JNOS box as the 'DMZ'. Do you consider writing
firewall rules to be 'hacking'?
Some of the inexpensive 'appliance' routers come preloaded with dd-wrt,
where a specific forward of protocol 4 can be implemented by editing the
config via an ssh console, even if the gui doesn't offer that option.
Many inexpensive routers can be reflashed with the Openwrt distro, which
is as easy as 'upgrading the firmware' from the factory GUI. The LuCI GUI
shipped with that distro has an 'other' option in the protocol field of
the 'port forwards' section. Is it considered 'hacking' to type a
'4' in
the field instead of choosing from a menu?
What's your threshold of 'expensive'? My production router is a Buffalo
appliance which I purchased new for about $80USD. I frequently find other
openwrt-supported hardware on my local web-classified-ad site for
$10-20USD. The PFsense or IPCop distros will run on 'normal' PC-class
hardware of PII/256MiB or better, which around here are free for the
asking, and usually just taking up space in the garage. I was running
IPCop for years on old hardware, and decided to spend real money on the
Buffalo when I got tired of whining and wheezing fans, and wanted to
reduce my power consumption from ~150W to ~10W. My 'expensive' hardware
was worth it immediately for the peace and quiet, and will eventually pay
for itself in energy savings.
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As far as I recall, it not problem in cheap routers but expensive too,
as the only platform that supports custom IPIP used for 44NET is linux
box, and even that needs to be customized.
If IPIP is widely supported that would be ok solution. But this is custom
solution that needs hacking just to make it work.
It takes NO hacking at all except to get around junk routers. Replace
your router with a PFsense firewall (FREE) and all these problems go away.