31 Jan
2014
31 Jan
'14
6:33 p.m.
The discussion is slowing down again...
I don't think anybody is promoting BGP to the exclusion of other routing
protocols on net-44.
Not directly perhaps but there's lots of disparaging comments on the
old tried and true system...
Really? Are you saying amateur RF is synonymous with low bandwidth? Have
you looked at HSMM lately?
Yes. Amateur RF is synonymous with low bandwidth. We have unique
capabilities but it's with low bandwidth like 1200 baud, 9600 baud,
100K ID1's and hopefully soon UDRX at 56K+.
BBHN (Broadband hamnet, was HSMM) is generally more interested with
connectivity than performance. Unfortunately too many experimenters
there are new and not familiar with the lessons of 145.01 or 144.39...
Even implemented with good RF design the MESH ad-hoc based system has
compromises. I tried streaming the next episode of Torchwood from
Amazon a couple nights ago and my NW-MESH (based on HSMM-MESH) home
system wouldn't do it. I don't think that's even HD. :(
Let me reword that while saying the same thing... "It's all pretty
much moot given the lack of use case for either the BGP routed
datacenter infrastructure or the independent experimenter in the
basement with a mapped tunnel gateway."
Having said that, I'm still working to make the Ham Facebook (or ?)
available on the air both low speed VHF and higher speed (100 MB+)
some time in February...
You can multi-home BGP networks for higher
reliability. It all depends
on how the network is engineered. This is a volunteer effort, with
distributed network design and management.
Part of engineering is considering the 'volunteers' available.
Designing a system where only a select few can play (BGP routing) is
less HAM oriented, UM!HO, than a basement computer system where
anybody and everybody can participate. We should be expanding the routing flexibility to
accomodate multiple protocols/technologies, further experimentation, and
allow utilization of additional volunteers whose expertise goes beyond just
static routing and RIP.
Change for the sake of change even if it's not really needed? Yes it
is a good thing...
However, I think a truly useful network of Amateur
Radio related
technologies is better served via high bandwidth infrastructure (99.99%
of the time). Ingenuity takes over for the rest (0.01%).
That high bandwidth infrastructure is generally not 'amateur RF' so
keep it simple and on the stock Internet technologies and no need for
any additional routing magic. It's all
pretty much moot given the lack of a use case for either the
BGP High speed or basement lower speed systems. I'm still dreaming of
a HAM Radio variant of Facebook...
BGP is not synonymous with high-speed any more than basement is synonymous with
low-speed. Antonio Querubin
Bill, WA7NWP