Re: [44net] Proposal for allocation of AS numbers

Which coordinates? Of the server, the router, the antenna, the point of the network farther to east or to west? How do you define the position of a network? The geometrical centum of the cabling or of the radio links? When you move a router to a new position will you change your AS? If you move to a new QTH will you change it also? Let's get this clear: AS numbers represent a computer group, which may have multiple subnets, spanning possible over wide geographical areas, not an individual computer. For that we use IP addresses. It is a functional routing group, with nothing to do with IPs and positions. It is used just for plain routing, nothing else. And there is no need for each person to have an AS. It is not a computer identifier, it is a network group identifier, used to identify a path through the network to be used to reach that specific group, a path which gets propagated to all connected routers, so in the end everybody knows how to reach any other party. So any numbering method would do, but from the point of view of a network engineer, a functional hierarchical approach is easier to manage, not a geographic one. Coincidentally, national allocations correspond somehow to functional zones, from a administrative approach. And the aim is to have a hierarchical scheme, to allow an easy to use management, not to be able to identify the user or the location of the network. -----Original Message----- From: Patrick Ryan KC6VVT Sent: Friday, December 11, 2015 21:54 To: AMPRNet working group Subject: Re: [44net] Proposal for allocation of AS numbers (Please trim inclusions from previous messages) _______________________________________________ To avoid a world wide issue, it seems to me, in my ignorance, that it would be wise to use the latitude and longitude in your proposal for the 44Net, not unlike APRS uses. For example DDD.ddd.DDD.ddd where D = Degrees, d = decimal degrees, listing Latitude first, Longitude second set. That would save having a registry world wide, and the only coordination of use would be with your neighbors.