15 Jun
2015
15 Jun
'15
5:30 p.m.
On 6/15/15 5:13 PM, Neil Johnson wrote:
Bryan,
You have it backwards. UCSD lets us use their network connectivity for
free because it's beneficial for their research.
If they no longer find it useful then they may not be willing to
swallow a /8 of random traffic.
UCSD gets grants for their research (it's a full time job). It's not asking
much for them to compensate ARDC for use of their space. Just because it's a
non-profit doesn't mean they should be able to get use of the space for free.
44/8 is worth much more that some connectivity which can't be provisioned with
dynamic routing. I'm willing to work with UCSD, but in today's world there is
a premium on IP space. Ham radio is endowed with a very precious resource.
This argument is akin to saying "this TV station lets us put a repeater on
their tower, but they get to use the repeater for non-ham purposes". Or being
a student athlete in the NCAA and getting a nebulous "communications" degree
for letting the school make millions off your talents.
I've seen the work CAIDA/UCSD does, it's good and benefits the Internet
community, but I will not let this take precedence over the needs of amateur
radio, vis-à-vis end to end reachability.
If there are ISP's willing to do that for free,
I'd be very surprised.
I know of four. At least one would be willing to sign it in a contract.
There a lots of hams in the upper echelons of IP carriers.
To date I've yet to see any numbers on the utilization of the amprgw so I
really don't think it's that much traffic.
Brian, will you share the details on this?
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