44net August 2013

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Re: [44net] Something simple
by kb9mwr＠gmail.com 20 Aug '13

20 Aug '13

Well seems every platform is a bit different. The ip route command works a bit different from Debian to Redhat. Here are the errors when I tried to run rip44d on CentOS platform: route del failed: 'LANG=C /sbin/ip route del 44.183.0.0/255.255.0.0': Error: an inet prefix is expected rather than "44.183.0.0/255.255.0.0". route add failed: 'LANG=C /sbin/ip route add 44.183.0.0/255.255.0.0 via 130.208.168.63 dev tunl0 window 840 onlink': Error: an inet prefix is expected rather than "44.183.0.0/255.255.0.0". route del failed: 'LANG=C /sbin/ip route del 44.208.0.0/255.255.0.0': Error: an inet prefix is expected rather than "44.208.0.0/255.255.0.0". route add failed: 'LANG=C /sbin/ip route add 44.208.0.0/255.255.0.0 via 94.101.48.134 dev tunl0 window 840 onlink': Error: an inet prefix is expected rather than "44.208.0.0/255.255.0.0". route del failed: 'LANG=C /sbin/ip route del 44.142.0.0/255.254.0.0': Error: an inet prefix is expected rather than "44.142.0.0/255.254.0.0". route add failed: 'LANG=C /sbin/ip route add 44.142.0.0/255.254.0.0 via

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re: Something simple
by Rod Ekholm 19 Aug '13

19 Aug '13

Single point of presence only for vast connectivity. I have read others ideas about having multiple GP hosts.. That is a great concept. As for vendor non-specific.. I think just about any common platform of routing will do. What I hate to see is something that has to be run on a certain box. Whether it be RIP44d, or any other specifically modified routing protocol. You don't see Cisco's specific standards being used across platforms, because they can only be used with other Cisco boxes. While I am stating all this all to obvious information, i do realize there have been some very long nights and likely some personal sacrifices that folks have made to have 44Net what it is today. i just think there needs to be a road map developed like any project, to make sure everyone that has the common interest be allowed to play, and not be locked down to what flavor they have to have. Be it PPP, VPN, BGP with some redundancy, vanilla, chocolate... I don't have the answer, because it's too big to wrap my head around this early in my game. I'd be willing to be part of something that can define and help others though. -- Rod Ekholm

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Re: [44net] Something simple
by kb9mwr＠gmail.com 19 Aug '13

19 Aug '13

Rod, I can't speak for everyone. What do you propose that isn't vendor specific? There was some talk about http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dynamic_Multipoint_Virtual_Private_Network And there seems to be an open source compatibility here: http://sourceforge.net/projects/opennhrp/ I'd be willing to dabble with this, if someone else wants to. The common point of presence idea, might make things simpler, but then that is a possible point of failure.

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Who is teqsys.net and why is he sending me RIP?
by Mark Phillips 18 Aug '13

18 Aug '13

All, Like the subject says. I've noticed I'm getting a RIP update from 81.174.253.193 which contains only a few of the major subnets in our nework. Anyone got a clue as to whom this is and why they are sending them? Thanks Mark

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Dynamic IP Gateway problem.
by Demetre SV1UY 17 Aug '13

17 Aug '13

Hi all, I have setup, after many years of absence, our AMPRnet GATEWAY in Athens, running in a LINUX BOX. I have a dynamic IP here which rarely changes and up to now I had access to several AMPRnet hosts. Yesterday I had to reset my router (TL-WR1043ND running DD-WRT) and I lost connectivity. Checking http://portal.ampr.org I can see that my new Internet IP has been updated (it takes about 1 hour I think). Problem is that now I cannot ping gb7cip.ampr.org or any other AMPRnet host I could before? I can see that rip44d is doing it's thing using "tcpdump -i tunl0". How long does it take for AMPRnet to be informed after a change in Internet IP (nor 44net IP)? It has been more than 12 hours since my router got it's new IP and no joy yet! Any ideas guys? -- 73 de SV1UY Demetre Ch. Valaris IP Coordinator for AMPRnet in Greece e-mail: demetre.sv1uy(a)gmail.com Radio e-mail: sv1uy(a)winlink.org (to use my radio e-mail put //WL2K in the beginning of the subject line) http://www.qsl.net/sv1uy

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Portal DNS requests
by Blaine Forbort 16 Aug '13

16 Aug '13

I was just curious, is the portal's DNS request page up and running, or do I need to try to contact my coordinator directly? I'd like to add a couple of A name records for my routing experiment. router-3.k1qv.ampr.org A 44.4.36.3 router-5.k1qv.ampr.org A 44.4.36.5 These will be the two routers that will be connected to my gateway via OpenVPN. Thanks for the update, Blaine, K1QV Sent from my iPhone

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experimental LISP
by Jim Alles 16 Aug '13

16 Aug '13

Anybody that knows about BGP & GRE, I was wondering if this would be useful for us to look into (I am not that person). http://www.rfc-base.org/txt/rfc-6836.txt Jim A.

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Re: [44net] rip44d update
by kb9mwr＠gmail.com 15 Aug '13

15 Aug '13

Michael, At this point, ampr-ripd (C implementation) is the best thing out there in my opinion. Hessu, wrote the rip44d, and that required Perl and a multicast package to run. So running this on a WRT54G, for instance was probably not going to happen. I'd like to think with the C implementation, this could be a reality. Also, I am not sure, but do think the C implementation stands the greatest chance to run cross platform. Hessu's perl one was kind of locked to Debian installs. Again, it's all so new, I personally haven't had they time yet to try it on a bunch of different platforms. I actaully am not sure why someone would go with amprd over ampr-ripd. Perhaps others can comment. Steve

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(no subject)
by kb9mwr＠gmail.com 14 Aug '13

14 Aug '13

Here are some random thoughts: It would be interesting or maybe helpful if the ampr.org name server did some statistics collection. These stats could be used to help prune dead records? I am not sure how resource intensive that might be however. It looks like you can use Cacti in conjunction with BIND. It is also important that we have some idea what is on the amprnet, what it used for. The Michigan Digital Radio group has some basic activity polling : http://server1.nuge.com/~drg/network.html Perhaps even something that can be installed on gateways that promiscuously monitors well know ports/services, and can be configured to report activity to a central page? If nothing else can the gateway portion of the portal have some additional text boxes, so folks can explain things a bit more like the old resource.txt?

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??? ignored packet on IPIP Tunnel
by Luc Pernot 14 Aug '13

14 Aug '13

There is a message showing on my RPI gateway 44.135.96.17 tunnel TTY0 saying "ignored packet from 44.131.160.1: 520: 504" every 5 minutes or so. any suggestion how to resolve this... Luc VE3JGL in Ottawa

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