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Money for Wireless Research
by Brian Kantor 27 Jun '17

27 Jun '17

The National Science Foundation and Mozilla are sponsoring an initiative to bypass the wired web to bring additional people online and to provide survivability in times of disaster. Sound familiar? Seems we're already doing some of that; perhaps some of us should apply for some of the grant money to spice things up. > https://blog.mozilla.org/blog/2017/06/21/2-million-prize-decentralize-web-a… - Brian

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Re: [44net] Money for Wireless Research
by Rob Janssen 25 Jun '17

25 Jun '17

Decentralize the web is indeed what we have always been doing. Probably because we started in the times when the internet was still very decentralized and all communication was peer-to-peer. Lately, internet has been transformed into a client-server network much like the telephone BBS world was in those days: there are users, they connect to some server where all they want to have can be found and stored. This is also a reason why IPv6 has not really taken off. The design principle behind IPv6, to have enough addresses to assign one to every device and have all of those devices communicate peer-to-peer, has largely been abandoned on the internet. There is no reason anymore to have a different address for every device. In fact, now that we have the AMPRnet coming alive again here, many of the users are so accustomed to this way of working that they implement it on their ham network as well: everything NATted behind a single IP address. Even though they can just apply for a subnet large enough for their shack. Maybe we should invest in explaining the difference between our network and the internet as it is used today, and how this change on internet came about. It could help people think different. Rob

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FYI Map progress
by Marius Petrescu 23 Jun '17

23 Jun '17

FYI: I added some click response stuff to your dots on the map... http://yo2tm.ampr.org/ampr-map/

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Is Your wireless router (or access point) breakable ?
by R P 22 Jun '17

22 Jun '17

It might interest some of us ... https://qz.com/1008273/complete-list-of-wifi-routers-included-in-wikileaks-… [https://qzprod.files.wordpress.com/2017/06/screen-shot-2017-06-16-at-3-49-4…]<https://qz.com/1008273/complete-list-of-wifi-routers-included-in-wikileaks-…> If your home wifi router is on this list, it might be vulnerable to CIA hacking tools<https://qz.com/1008273/complete-list-of-wifi-routers-included-in-wikileaks-…> qz.com The collection of tools can be used to monitor internet activity

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Re: [44net] www.ampr.org Not responding ?
by Rob Janssen 21 Jun '17

21 Jun '17

> I don't think this would be wise because then the DDoS'ers would > be targeting the 44-net address as well, thus impacting that router. > - Brian Is it now running on a machine at home on some private DSL line? (as the whois for the IP suggests) In that case it should be possible to make it a little more resistant against this kind of malevolents... (not that I volunteer to host it on our internet connection, we have DDoS experience as well...) Is there any indication who is behind this? Is there any activity on that system that could grief someone or some group? Any message telling what has to be stopped or done? Rob

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Re: [44net] www.ampr.org Not responding ?
by Steve L 21 Jun '17

21 Jun '17

Probably more denial of service stuff going on. I know www.ampr.org and portal.ampr.org are not on 44net space, but I wonder if there would be a possible advantage to being accessible both from the normal internet and via a private 44 route. In DDoS cases maybe things could be as normal for connects within the network? That is the same thought I had to the login required for the gw.ampr.org stats. Maybe their could be no login required within the network to view? Just some thinking out loud.

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www.ampr.org Not responding ?
by R P 21 Jun '17

21 Jun '17

Is www.ampr.org<http://www.ampr.org> working ? Is it accessible from NON 44 IP if answers are Yes to all I cant contact it Ronen - 4Z4ZQ Amateur Radio Digital Communications | Managing the ...<http://www.ampr.org/> www.ampr.org Looking for technical information or how to get a subnet allocation? Be sure to visit our WIKI, and interact with us on the Portal. You may join our discussion ...

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Change of IP address - VK6HGR
by Gavin Rogers 21 Jun '17

21 Jun '17

Hi All. Apologies for sending this to the list, but I've discovered I haven't got valid email addresses for everyone that connects to my system. After switching from ADSL to the Australian national broadband network the IP address my system was allocated for the last 10 years had to change: For those who may have been connecting to FBB or AXIP/UDP directly to my commercial IP address, please change your configuration From: 203.59.134.49 To: 203.59.7.248 The IPIP gateway IP has already been changed and vk6hgr.ampr.org/44.136.204.77 should be reachable. 73, Gavin -- Gavin Rogers | Amateur radio station VK6HGR http://www.livingwaters.com/good | http://vk6hgr.ampr.org/ MSN/Skype/Email: grogers(a)vk6hgr.echidna.id.au

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Re: [44net] Problems with iptables and ampr-ripd
by Steve L 20 Jun '17

20 Jun '17

As Marius said, there is no plug and play / universal setup, which I believe is good. Yes its frustrating at first, but when you do get it going at least you can say you learned something. Everyones setup will be different, as is their understanding of Linux and networking. I remember looking at the same wiki page quite some time back, and I was stumped at almost the very first step > ip link set dev ampr0 up I'd get no such device returned as an error. I discovered the ampr0 naming convention wasn't liked by my flavor of Linux, it pretty much had to be tunl0 for me. And from there many more things that took my mind quite a while to understand, specifically with the need for policy routing etc. This is what I wrote after I had it working. An explanation that made sense to me. And I have tried to keep it to date in a minimal fashion to help others. http://www.qsl.net/k/kb9mwr//wapr/tcpip/ampr-ripd.html I have since done things differently. Rather than adding a USB network eth1, I use VLAN tags and a switch. And I never did really document the firewall stuff, which I do now as well. Start small and work up from there is my suggestion. I always recommend starting by installing tcpdump and connecting directly to your modem (in a bridged mode if needed), and verifying the RIP traffic. From there you can see if your equipment can forward protocol 4 or DMZ correctly to whatever your gateway machine will be. Steve, KB9MWR

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Info Please
by Peter Mallett 20 Jun '17

20 Jun '17

Hi All, Is the address _postmaster(a)portal.ampr.org_ a valid address, the last two I have sent there have bounced. Regards ..... Peter ZL2BAU

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