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Re: [44net] iptables logging of IPIP
by Rob Janssen 10 May '17

10 May '17

> Perhaps then I didn't glean that data...but HOW does one 'decode' that > MAC then? > Meaning, how do I see SRC, DST protocol number, etc.? > (this might be helpful looking through kernel-mod ipt) That MAC is just a hexdump of the IP header so you extract the bytes you want and convert them to decimal. It should have been only 20 bytes but it is much longer, probably someone misunderstood the length field somewhere. Rob

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Re: [44net] iptables logging of IPIP
by Rob Janssen 10 May '17

10 May '17

> What [additional] information does this MAC field provide to you on the > tunnel? > Does this field change per packet? > Is there some documentation on how to decode it? > Is it a hashing of some sort, or just a hex copy of the data (IP header)? All these questions are answered in my initial post. It was useful, as it allowed to see what tunnel endpoint had sent a packet when it was dropped by the firewall on the tunl0 device itself. Of course the tunnel source can be seen on the eth0 device but there you cannot (or it is very difficult to) examine the encapsulated packet. Rob

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iptables logging of IPIP
by Rob Janssen 09 May '17

09 May '17

Today I noticed that the log on our gateway lost some detail for IPIP traffic. (now that everyone is discussing trouble with tunneled packets...) In the past with Linux kernel 3.2 and 3.16, when some packet incoming over tunl0 was hitting a LOG target in the iptables firewall, it would log a MAC address of the entire IP header as hex bytes (colon separated), like this: Apr 16 07:39:13 gw-44-137 kernel: [1266597.275238] Packet DROP: IN=tunl0 OUT=eth 1 MAC=45:00:00:44:10:f9:00:00:f9:04:e9:f9:54:6a:7e:b8:d5:de:1d:c2:45:00:00:30:64 :21:40:00:7e:06:29:1a:c0:a8:58:0a:2c:89:2a:51:e9:c0:14:66:1f:fa:64:c8:00:00:00:0 0:70:02:20:00:70:a9:00:00:02:04:05:b4:01:01:04:02:c8:78:03:6b:1a:74:bd:29:37:8d: da:27:61:d7:2f:22:b0:b5:2b:b8:b4:61:3a:60:08:23:48:1b:26:15:57:80:00:00:85:ec:03 :32:df:df:85:46:bb:b3:40:e4:0f:df:4b:3d:93:e0:ed:f3:46:d4:e0:17:68:b6:dd:5d:f1:3 f:1b:1e:6f:a0:f0:69:5c:28:4a:3c:24:17:20:ff:e5:97 SRC=192.168.88.10 DST=44.137.4 2.81 LEN=48 TOS=0x00 PREC=0x00 TTL=126 ID=25633 DF PROTO=TCP SPT=59840 DPT=5222 WINDOW=8192 RES=0x00 SYN URGP=0 (wrapped) Ok, that was much too long, there was probably a bug somewhere and the intention was to show only the outer IP header. Recently I switched to kernel 4.9 but now the packets are logged with no info at all: May 9 18:05:57 gw-44-137 kernel: [359091.001991] Packet DROP: IN=tunl0 OUT= MAC= SRC=192.168.15.2 DST=44.137.75.242 LEN=243 TOS=0x00 PREC=0x00 TTL=123 ID=39243 PROTO=UDP SPT=5198 DPT=5198 LEN=223 The MAC field is now simply empty. With the first format I had a small perl script that processed the log entries and showed the tunnel endpoint that was sending the packet: Apr 16 07:39:13 gw-44-137 kernel: [1266597.275238] Packet DROP: IN=tunl0 OUT=eth1 TUNL=84.106.126.184 SRC=192.168.88.10 DST=44.137.42.81 LEN=48 TOS=0x00 PREC=0x00 TTL=126 ID=25633 DF PROTO=TCP SPT=59840 DPT=5222 WINDOW=8192 RES=0x00 SYN URGP=0 However, now this is no longer possible. I have tried finding info about it but no success yet. Does anyone know if there is some parameter to tune this behaviour? Rob

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Re: [44net] iptables logging of IPIP
by Rob Janssen 09 May '17

09 May '17

> In the past with Linux kernel 3.2 and 3.16 > Recently I switched to kernel 4.9 That was incorrect. The first behaviour was with kernel 3.2 and the 3.16 kernel does not log that long MAC address anymore. The 4.9 kernel is on another system, it is not related to this. Rob

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gateway errors detail available
by Brian Kantor 09 May '17

09 May '17

If your gateway appears in the pkterrors.txt file, the packets which caused that error to be logged and the packet to be dropped are now available in a file you can retrieve with your web browser. They are binary log files, so you'll need a program to interpret them. The URL for a typical file is https://gw.ampr.org/private/errors/67.164.64.8.bin where of course the IP address part changes to whatever your gateway address is. The files are removed and start fresh at midnight Pacific time (GMT-7 or -8). For some error-prone sites, they get large-ish. The format of each file is /* * 2 bytes error number (unsigned short) * 2 bytes packet length (unsigned short) * 4 bytes time (seconds since epoch) * 4 bytes fractional seconds (microseconds) * n bytes (packetlen) encapped IP packet in network byte order */ I have a 'C' program that will interpret the file, which you may have if you're interested. It calls some library routines that you probably don't have, so you'll have to modify it to get it to run on your system. In particular, the error number and packet content interpreters are up to you. I don't think the compiled code will run on Linux but you're welcome to it if you have a FreeBSD system to run it on. Or if you like, I'll run it on your gateway error log file and mail you the output. That looks like this: timestamp (GMT) len err error -------------------- ---- ---- ---------- 2017-05-08T19:04:32Z 40 [19] dropped: non-44 inner source address ver=4 hl*4=20 tos=00 ip_len=40 id=d431 off=0000 ttl=244 proto=6 cksum=7d51 [TCP] 184.105.139.107:44864 -> 44.118.5.2:16992 2017-05-08T19:05:51Z 40 [19] dropped: non-44 inner source address ver=4 hl*4=20 tos=00 ip_len=40 id=18f4 off=0000 ttl=43 proto=6 cksum=5b02 [TCP] 181.23.53.75:58147 -> 44.118.5.2:2222 etc. So far, keeping these log files doesn't seem to burden the system very much. If that changes, I'll have to discontinue them. - Brian

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gateway and host bad packets report
by Brian Kantor 09 May '17

09 May '17

The amprgw router is now periodically preparing a report of the bad packets that it discards. You can retrieve a copy of this report right next to the statistics report: <https://gw.ampr.org/private/pkterrors.txt>. You'll need the same userid and password as for the stats.txt file (same as the one you use to fetch the encap file from the portal.) It's in gateway and source address order to make finding your own gateway and host in the listing somewhat easier. Current plan is to update the report every 15 minutes, and restart the tally at midnight Pacific time. Here are the first few lines (there are currently about 2,300). Let me know if you have any problems or questions with this. - Brian Last update at Wed May 3 15:45:00 2017 gateway inner src #errs indx error type ---------------- ---------------- ----- ---- ------------------------------- 2.84.96.101 44.154.0.1 9 [ 8] dropped: encap to encap 2.84.96.101 44.154.2.1 3 [ 8] dropped: encap to encap 2.84.96.101 44.154.3.1 3 [ 8] dropped: encap to encap 2.84.96.101 44.154.4.1 4 [ 8] dropped: encap to encap 2.84.96.101 44.165.2.3 106 [ 8] dropped: encap to encap 18.96.0.110 44.44.7.225 6 [ 8] dropped: encap to encap 18.96.0.110 44.44.7.232 8 [ 8] dropped: encap to encap 23.30.150.141 23.30.150.141 1326 [19] dropped: non-44 inner source address

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Intrusion Detection and Prevention - LEDE and pfSense
by lleachii＠aol.com 09 May '17

09 May '17

All, I was wondering if anyone is using pfSense as their gateway's router OS. If so, have you been successful at compiling a running version of ampr-ripd for it? I'm very interested in pfSense's intrusion detection and prevention using Snort. I may be willing to test a Gateway if someone has used a compatible version of ampr-ripd (FreeBSD 10.3 64-bit). Also, I've asked the LEDE developers to consider adding a blocking feature to the Snort package available on the device (https://bugs.lede-project.org/index.php?do=details&task_id=772). 73, - Lynwood KB3VWG

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Image for Gateway with Raspberry Pi
by R P 09 May '17

09 May '17

Is there any place that i can grab image for raspberry pi that will allow the following 1) ipip 2) option for TNC software with Net/ROM support and TCP/IP If there is Jnos its better for me as i know it from the past (to allow users from radio to gain access) 3) MMDVM support (to allow connect a DMR repeater based on MMDVM and Arduino) I currently have a working set consist of PI and MMDVM software connected to the arduino running on the AMPRNET but the Pi dont support IPIP Is it more easy just to add the IPIP support for my Image ? (please dont tel me "get this and this and compile" as I dont know to compile But if it is only to install something with simple command i can do it ) any help / recommendation is welcome Regards Ronen/4Z4ZQ http://www.ronen.org Ronen Pinchooks (4Z4ZQ) WebSite<http://www.ronen.org/> www.ronen.org ronen.org (Ronen Pinchooks (4Z4ZQ) WebSite) is hosted by domainavenue.com

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Re: [44net] gateway errors detail available
by Tim Osburn 09 May '17

09 May '17

Brian, Since you are using Apache perhaps you can enable more client details in your log verbosity by changing your LogFormat from the default settings to the combinedio settings which will include more information about the client software that is connecting to your web server. Such details as these can be shown if you increase your LogFormat: LogFormat "%h %l %u %t \"%r\" %>s %b \"%{Referer}i\" \"%{User-Agent}i\" %I %O" combinedio CustomLog "logs/access_log" combinedio Client Agent (small sample) "Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:19.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/19.0" "Apache/2.4.6 (CentOS) OpenSSL/1.0.1e-fips PHP/5.4.16 (internal dummy connection)" "Googlebot/2.1 (+http://www.google.com/bot.html)" "Mozilla/5.0 (compatible; Googlebot/2.1; +http://www.google.com/bot.html)" "Mozilla/5.0 (compatible; Baiduspider/2.0; +http://www.baidu.com/search/spider.html)" "Mozilla/5.0 (compatible; MojeekBot/0.6; +https://www.mojeek.com/bot.html)" Tim Osburn W7RSZ / JG1MBR https://www.osburn.com On Mon, 8 May 2017, Brian Kantor wrote: > Date: Mon, 8 May 2017 23:27:14 -0700 > From: Brian Kantor <Brian(a)UCSD.Edu> > Reply-To: AMPRNet working group <44net(a)hamradio.ucsd.edu> > To: AMPRNet working group <44net(a)hamradio.ucsd.edu> > Subject: Re: [44net] gateway errors detail available > > (Please trim inclusions from previous messages) > _______________________________________________ > Yes, the host 'hamradio.ucsd.edu' where the mailing list is hosted > also archives all messages and makes them available via the web. > > It's amusing: despite not being real, from the following Apache > log entries, no-such-file has been a popular target this evening: > > gw.ampr.org-ssl 70.39.157.194 - - [08/May/2017:17:56:38 -0700] "GET > /private/no-such-file.txt HTTP/1.1" 401 381 > gw.ampr.org-ssl 66.85.73.59 - - [08/May/2017:17:58:59 -0700] "GET > /private/no-such-file.txt HTTP/1.1" 401 381 > gw.ampr.org-ssl 220.233.167.221 - - [08/May/2017:17:59:43 -0700] "GET > /private/no-such-file.txt HTTP/1.1" 401 381 > gw.ampr.org-ssl 4.79.123.0 - - [08/May/2017:18:09:35 -0700] "GET > /private/no-such-file.txt HTTP/1.1" 401 381 > gw.ampr.org-ssl 68.40.58.30 - - [08/May/2017:18:56:26 -0700] "GET > /private/no-such-file.txt HTTP/1.1" 401 381 > gw.ampr.org-ssl 4.79.123.0 - - [08/May/2017:21:42:57 -0700] "GET > /private/no-such-file.txt HTTP/1.1" 401 381 > gw.ampr.org-ssl 165.225.80.161 - - [08/May/2017:21:48:27 -0700] "GET > /private/no-such-file.txt HTTP/1.1" 401 381 > > The first one above was logged just 19 seconds after I posted the message > to the list. The others came later; they could be humans. Note that > none of them logged in; they just tried to fetch the file and went > away. Oh, I'm not concerned, I just was a bit surprised. And curious. > - Brian > > On Tue, May 09, 2017 at 04:42:26AM +0000, Ruben ON3RVH wrote: > > Is the content of the list posted on a website? Like for archiving > > purposes? > > Otherwise someone might have a mailbox from the list configured with a > > scraper.. > > Can you see which is the source IP for the requests? Maybe this can lead > > you to the correct person.. > > 73, > > Ruben - ON3RVH > _________________________________________ > 44Net mailing list > 44Net(a)hamradio.ucsd.edu > http://hamradio.ucsd.edu/mailman/listinfo/44net >

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Re: [44net] gateway errors detail available
by Brian Kantor 09 May '17

09 May '17

I'm not sure I made this clear: with the change from my homegrown format to PCAP, the file names changed from <address>.bin to <address>.pcap. So you'd fetch https://gw.ampr.org/private/errors/62.147.189.164.pcap for example. - Brian

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