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Re: [44net] getting rip data fron the non ampr address of ucsd gw?
by Rob Janssen 08 Sep '16

08 Sep '16

> Let's not forget... > If you are unable to get RIP broadcasts for any reason, you can get the > encap data from the portal as a json file via its API. Sure, but please note that this does not solve the underlying problem of not being able to receive unsolicited IPIP traffic I mentioned. When that is the reason (rather than inability to follow installation and debugging instructions), the result will be a partially-working gateway. That gateway will be usable to contact other stations on the AMPRnet, but those other stations will not be able to contact your systems. Outgoing connects are OK, incoming connects are not. While some people my consider that a usable system, it is not a desirable situation. The AMPRnet is more peer-to-peer than the internet in general, in that anyone is expected to be both a participant and a consumer, not only a consumer as is usual on the internet. Rob

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Re: [44net] getting rip data fron the non ampr address of ucsd gw?
by Rob Janssen 08 Sep '16

08 Sep '16

> So the password is sent from UCSD and compered with the password i put locally and if they identical then the data is processed ? > one more thing i understand the data is sent from UCSD ... how often is it sent ? > I dont see any advertisement here do i need to define something in the portal ? > normal tunneling work well Of course you need to have a gateway entry in the Portal. I.e. you need to have a subnet, and a gateway with external address and that subnet defined. The RIP packets are sent every 5 minutes. When you can manually make a tunnel and ping the remote, but you do not receive anything including RIP broadcasts, the cause often is a stateful firewall inside your internet modem/router. It accepts replies to outgoing packets, but it does not accept unsolicited incoming packets. This is designed as a security feature. To use IPIP tunneling, your modem/router must be able to unconditionally forward protocol-4 traffic to your gateway system. In advanced modem/routers you can forward a protocol, but usually it is only possible to forward TCP and UDP ports. That is something different. It is useless to forward port 4, you have to forward protocol 4. When that cannot be done you can often set a "DMZ host" that is said to get all incoming traffic, however there are examples of modem/routers where this does not work correctly. The DMZ host receives all TCP and UDP traffic but not all other traffic (including IPIP). It does receive (like any host) replies on its own IPIP traffic, but not the unsolicited incoming traffic. When you have such a modem/router, and when it cannot be replaced (e.g. because your provider requires you to use this modem/router), you cannot use IPIP tunnels. Rob

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getting rip data fron the non ampr address of ucsd gw?
by R P 08 Sep '16

08 Sep '16

Hi there can i get the ripv2 data from ucsd gateway by connecting to its non ampr address ? what about from connecting it from my internet (non ampr) adress as well ? any info welcome Thanks forward Ronen - 4Z4ZQ http://www.ronen.org Ronen Pinchooks (4Z4ZQ) WebSite<http://www.ronen.org/> www.ronen.org ronen.org (Ronen Pinchooks (4Z4ZQ) WebSite) is hosted by domainavenue.com

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Re: [44net] ip44 argentina
by Rob Janssen 07 Sep '16

07 Sep '16

> Subject: > [44net] ip44 argentina > From: > Eduardo Castillo <lu9dce(a)gmail.com> > Date: > 09/07/2016 06:10 PM > > To: > 44net-owner(a)hamradio.ucsd.edu > > > Hello !! > > we are trying to set up a debian linux pc > > and we fail to find settings > > ip we have is 44.153.32.97 > > PC IP is 192.168.0.50 > > and dynamic IP Internet > lu9dce.dynu.com > > how to make a script > to a ip44 You can find directions on the WiKi: http://wiki.ampr.org/wiki/Setting_up_a_gateway_on_Linux

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ip44 argentina
by Eduardo Castillo 07 Sep '16

07 Sep '16

Hello !! we are trying to set up a debian linux pc and we fail to find settings ip we have is 44.153.32.97 PC IP is 192.168.0.50 and dynamic IP Internet lu9dce.dynu.com how to make a script to a ip44 73 --------- Hola !! estamos tratando de configurar un pc con linux debian y no logramos dar con la configuracion la ip que tenemos es 44.153.32.97 la ip del pc es 192.168.0.50 y la ip de internet dinamica a lu9dce.dynu.com como hacer un script para poder unas ip44 73 -- ====================================================================== Yo, el solitario, soy siempre el más rico y el más envidiado porque os he poseído y vosotros me poseéis aún. Friedrich Nietzsche, "Así habló Zaratustra". ====================================================================== __ __ __ __ | / \(__\| \/ |_ BBS GF05OM TORTUGUITAS 145010Mhz |__\__/ __/|__/\__|__ TELNET LU9DCE.DYNU.COM PORT 6300 == power by linux === NODO LU9DCE.DYNU.COM PORT 3694 *** https://www.facebook.com/groups/newpacketradio/ /EX

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Routing
by Paul Middlehurst 05 Sep '16

05 Sep '16

I have configured a Cisco router, duel Ethernet interfaces on on of my static Internet addresses. The IPIP tunnel comes up and with wireshark I can see traffic in both directions to 169.228.66.251 pinging devices in the wider 44. network I never see anything being returned. Does the gateway router automatically have the reciprocal return tunnel / routes added (as per the Encap file) or is this something that needs requesting? Is there a good 44.131.x.x address to test against? 73 Paul - G1DVA

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Re: [44net] DGN2200 ADSL router and IPIP
by lleachii＠aol.com 26 Aug '16

26 Aug '16

Ronen, Most consumer routers only pass TCP and UDP without customized firmware. If you have the Version 1 device, it is compatible with OpenWRT, see: https://wiki.openwrt.org/toh/netgear/dgn2200 I suggest using devices known to pass IPENCAP traffic. 73, Lynwood KB3VWG

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using first and last IP of AMPR subnet for networking
by R P 24 Aug '16

24 Aug '16

hi there One of our gateway got 8 IP ADDRESSES 44.138.0.8/39 Can the first address 44.238.0.8 be used ? or it reserved for networking only ? and i have to choose ip address only in the range of the 9-14 ? if the answer is that it can not be used how the main router at UCSD treat for ping attempts coming for 44.138.0.8 ? does it pass it ? or ignore it ? all is assured that the IP is defined at the AMPR DNS... What about the tunnel itself doesit have any connection to what ip the gateway have ? or it exist anyway and has no meaning for the ip of the gateway ? (because the tunnel defined with only Commercial IP one is local and other is the AMPRGW commercial ip) Its the first time i play with so small network and its not clear to me how its done at the AMPR system I know that on ampr /24 network we didnt use the first and last .. dont know if it was necessary or not but that was the fact Thank for any clarification Regards Ronen-4Z4ZQ http://www.ronen.org Ronen Pinchooks (4Z4ZQ) WebSite<http://www.ronen.org/> www.ronen.org ronen.org (Ronen Pinchooks (4Z4ZQ) WebSite) is hosted by domainavenue.com

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DGN2200 ADSL router and IPIP
by R P 24 Aug '16

24 Aug '16

Hi there Does anyone know if netgear DGN220 router may pass IPIP to its DMZ ? the router have a fire wall that ca not turned off and one rule in it that can not be deleted as follows any any drop always 10.0.0.20 never log i have placed before it rule as follows any any always pass 10.0.0.20 always log i suspect it know only TCP and UDP and not recognize IPIP on the log there is no sign of AMPRGW IP does anyone have experience with it ? Thanks for any help Regards Ronen - 4Z4ZQ http://www.ronen.org

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ipip tunnel problem for new gateway
by Rob Janssen 24 Aug '16

24 Aug '16

> sorry this is the correct config I think we have explained you many times that this is NOT a correct config. People have helped you with setting up working alternatives, someone has even gone all the way to write software for a commercial router to work as an AMPRnet tunnel router. All that effort seems to have gone to waste. You are still deploying those Cisco routers with only a default route. It's a shame. Rob

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