> Let's not forget...
> If you are unable to get RIP broadcasts for any reason, you can get the
> encap data from the portal as a json file via its API.
Sure, but please note that this does not solve the underlying problem of not being able to
receive unsolicited IPIP traffic I mentioned. When that is the reason (rather than inability
to follow installation and debugging instructions), the result will be a partially-working
gateway.
That gateway will be usable to contact other stations on the AMPRnet, but those other stations
will not be able to contact your systems. Outgoing connects are OK, incoming connects are not.
While some people my consider that a usable system, it is not a desirable situation.
The AMPRnet is more peer-to-peer than the internet in general, in that anyone is expected to
be both a participant and a consumer, not only a consumer as is usual on the internet.
Rob
> So the password is sent from UCSD and compered with the password i put locally and if they identical then the data is processed ?
> one more thing i understand the data is sent from UCSD ... how often is it sent ?
> I dont see any advertisement here do i need to define something in the portal ?
> normal tunneling work well
Of course you need to have a gateway entry in the Portal. I.e. you need to have a subnet, and
a gateway with external address and that subnet defined.
The RIP packets are sent every 5 minutes.
When you can manually make a tunnel and ping the remote, but you do not receive anything including
RIP broadcasts, the cause often is a stateful firewall inside your internet modem/router.
It accepts replies to outgoing packets, but it does not accept unsolicited incoming packets.
This is designed as a security feature.
To use IPIP tunneling, your modem/router must be able to unconditionally forward protocol-4 traffic
to your gateway system. In advanced modem/routers you can forward a protocol, but usually it is only
possible to forward TCP and UDP ports. That is something different. It is useless to forward port 4,
you have to forward protocol 4.
When that cannot be done you can often set a "DMZ host" that is said to get all incoming traffic,
however there are examples of modem/routers where this does not work correctly. The DMZ host receives
all TCP and UDP traffic but not all other traffic (including IPIP).
It does receive (like any host) replies on its own IPIP traffic, but not the unsolicited incoming traffic.
When you have such a modem/router, and when it cannot be replaced (e.g. because your provider requires
you to use this modem/router), you cannot use IPIP tunnels.
Rob
Hi there
can i get the ripv2 data from ucsd gateway by connecting to its non ampr address ?
what about from connecting it from my internet (non ampr) adress as well ?
any info welcome
Thanks forward
Ronen - 4Z4ZQ
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> Subject:
> [44net] ip44 argentina
> From:
> Eduardo Castillo <lu9dce(a)gmail.com>
> Date:
> 09/07/2016 06:10 PM
>
> To:
> 44net-owner(a)hamradio.ucsd.edu
>
>
> Hello !!
>
> we are trying to set up a debian linux pc
>
> and we fail to find settings
>
> ip we have is 44.153.32.97
>
> PC IP is 192.168.0.50
>
> and dynamic IP Internet
> lu9dce.dynu.com
>
> how to make a script
> to a ip44
You can find directions on the WiKi:
http://wiki.ampr.org/wiki/Setting_up_a_gateway_on_Linux
Hello !!
we are trying to set up a debian linux pc
and we fail to find settings
ip we have is 44.153.32.97
PC IP is 192.168.0.50
and dynamic IP Internet
lu9dce.dynu.com
how to make a script
to a ip44
73
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Hola !!
estamos tratando de configurar un pc con linux debian
y no logramos dar con la configuracion
la ip que tenemos es 44.153.32.97
la ip del pc es 192.168.0.50
y la ip de internet dinamica a
lu9dce.dynu.com
como hacer un script
para poder unas ip44
73
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I have configured a Cisco router, duel Ethernet interfaces on on of my static Internet addresses. The IPIP tunnel comes up and with wireshark I can see traffic in both directions to 169.228.66.251 pinging devices in the wider 44. network I never see anything being returned. Does the gateway router automatically have the reciprocal return tunnel / routes added (as per the Encap file) or is this something that needs requesting?
Is there a good 44.131.x.x address to test against?
73 Paul - G1DVA
Ronen,
Most consumer routers only pass TCP and UDP without customized firmware.
If you have the Version 1 device, it is compatible with OpenWRT, see:
https://wiki.openwrt.org/toh/netgear/dgn2200
I suggest using devices known to pass IPENCAP traffic.
73,
Lynwood
KB3VWG
hi there
One of our gateway got 8 IP ADDRESSES 44.138.0.8/39
Can the first address 44.238.0.8 be used ? or it reserved for networking only ? and i have to choose ip address only in the range of the 9-14 ?
if the answer is that it can not be used how the main router at UCSD treat for ping attempts coming for 44.138.0.8 ?
does it pass it ? or ignore it ? all is assured that the IP is defined at the AMPR DNS...
What about the tunnel itself doesit have any connection to what ip the gateway have ? or it exist anyway and has no meaning for the ip of the gateway ? (because the tunnel defined with only Commercial IP one is local and other is the AMPRGW commercial ip)
Its the first time i play with so small network and its not clear to me how its done at the AMPR system
I know that on ampr /24 network we didnt use the first and last .. dont know if it was necessary or not but that was the fact
Thank for any clarification
Regards
Ronen-4Z4ZQ
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Hi there
Does anyone know if netgear DGN220 router may pass IPIP to its DMZ ?
the router have a fire wall that ca not turned off and one rule in it that can not be deleted as follows
any any drop always 10.0.0.20 never log
i have placed before it rule as follows
any any always pass 10.0.0.20 always log
i suspect it know only TCP and UDP and not recognize IPIP
on the log there is no sign of AMPRGW IP
does anyone have experience with it ?
Thanks for any help
Regards
Ronen - 4Z4ZQ
http://www.ronen.org
> sorry this is the correct config
I think we have explained you many times that this is NOT a correct config.
People have helped you with setting up working alternatives, someone has even gone all the
way to write software for a commercial router to work as an AMPRnet tunnel router.
All that effort seems to have gone to waste. You are still deploying those Cisco routers
with only a default route. It's a shame.
Rob
