Hi Brian:
I am curious about BGP routing; since the agreements all go through you,
here are a few questions:
1) How many AMPRNet subnets are currently being advertised via BGP?
2) Do you have any notion if specific ISPs are more open to allow BGP
advertising than others?
3) Have any AMPRNet users had luck getting BGP agreements with home class
service?
Assi
Absolutely. Anything using Internet Protocol should work.
BTW, I was unable to traceroute you.
Feel free to use:
http://44.60.44.10/tools/trace/php-trace44.php
- Lynwood
KB3VWG
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Can I use again pptpd and connect to my gateway from
Internet like I used to do?
> Subject:
> Re: [44net] how can i know what network allocated to me ?;
> From:
> R P <ronenp(a)hotmail.com>
> Date:
> 02/18/2016 07:14 PM
>
> To:
> AMPRNet working group <44net(a)hamradio.ucsd.edu>
>
>
> Dear Marius
> There are several solutions for that
> i did it with Cisco 20 years ago and I know that there is at least one gateway that use Cisco active and running now
> So im not the first one who use Cisco
> Best Regards
> Ronen - 4Z4ZQ
Maybe you will be able to get it to work between your net-44 network and outside internet, but to
get connectivity to the other IPIP gateways will be very difficult for you.
Getting an IPIP gateway to work requires some understanding of networking and system configuration,
and it is a lot easier to do it on Linux than on your Cisco. But in any case you will need to study the
matter and learn how to solve problems.
In fact, that is most of the fun. As soon as it starts working, it is time to move on to other things...
When you don't like it, you have probably chosen the wrong project.
Rob
> Subject:
> [44net] Obtaining a /16 network for a specific DXCC country (TK) ?
> From:
> Toussaint OTTAVI <t.ottavi(a)bc-109.com>
> Date:
> 02/15/2016 10:31 AM
>
> To:
> <44net(a)hamradio.ucsd.edu>
>
>
> Hi,
>
> I'm TK1BI, and I'm living in Corsica. It's a small island in the Mediterranean sea. It's a French "department". But it's a specific DXCC country : TK.
>
> With my friend TK5EP, we are managing the TK5KP radio-club, which has been very active for years. We are now designing a hamnet network for our island. I'm wondering if it would be possible to obtain a /16 subnet for our "country". If so, what
> would be the requirements ?
How many radio amateurs are there in Corsica, and how many of them are likely to be active on the digital network?
There are 134 callsigns in the QRZ.COM list for TK*. Maybe only those that voluntarily listed themselves are there?
I think other countries of similar population size got a /20 assigned...
Not that we have a shortage of address space, and not that I want to withhold you a /16, but it seems a bit large.
Rob
> Subject:
> Re: [44net] BGP announcement questions ?
> From:
> R P <ronenp(a)hotmail.com>
> Date:
> 02/17/2016 09:14 AM
>
> To:
> AMPRNet working group <44net(a)hamradio.ucsd.edu>
>
>
> Thank you Edgar
> I look for Hardware solutions for making our gateways
> I know Cisco can serve as Gateway
> Now i start to understand that Microtik also can do it
> Do you know if anyone is doing a GateWay with Microtik ? if yes may I get the config to do IPIP for the 44 net ?
> Thanks Forward
> Ronen - 4Z4ZQ
I would not recommend Cisco or MikroTik to run an IPIP gateway. It is all much too complicated.
Get a Linux box. Seriously. Or BSD when you like that better. With a few simple configuration steps
you have an IPIP router that works automatically and does not need manual attention or complicated
scripts to update its configuration all the time.
MikroTik is ideal for use as internal router in a radio network: point-to-point links and user accesses,
and running BGP on the private AS numbers. That is not the same as running BGP towards internet!
To announce BGP subnets on internet I would recommend to get this service from an ISP. They know
this matter because they use it to advertise their own subnets, and a good ISP can advertise your
subnet to internet and statically route the traffic to your router.
Rob
curl -s http://thyme.rand.apnic.net/current/data-add-ARIN | grep " 44\."
>And if we talk on the subject
>is there any tool on the net that can show the Sub nets that advertised for the BGP for the >AMPRNET ?
>I used to see BGP advertisements in one of the looking glass tools of the biggest ISP tools page
>Regards
>Ronen - 4Z4ZQ
>http://www.ronen.org
Ronen,
I am with Tom on this. Cisco routers/Mikrotik have their place later
down in the network. By far the most logical way to do an IPIP
gateway is with a Linux box. Look into the the various single board
computers, you don't need a spinning hard drive if you are worried
about dish crashes etc.
Brian Kantor runs the whole thing at UCSD on a dual-core 3.2 Ghz Xeon
processor with two 1 GbE ports running a BSD variant on a Compact
flash storage device, if I remember correctly.
Hi,
I'm TK1BI, and I'm living in Corsica. It's a small island in the
Mediterranean sea. It's a French "department". But it's a specific DXCC
country : TK.
With my friend TK5EP, we are managing the TK5KP radio-club, which has
been very active for years. We are now designing a hamnet network for
our island. I'm wondering if it would be possible to obtain a /16 subnet
for our "country". If so, what would be the requirements ?
Here are some arguments :
- In the ham radio world, Corsica is a separate DXCC country.
- On an administrative point of view, Corsica is a department of France.
But it's an island, and there's 300 km of sea between us and France. So,
it's an independant geographical unit.
- On a political point of view, Corsica has a specific language (similar
to Italian), and a local government that would tend to more autonomy
inside France and Europe.
- On a historical point of view, Corsica has been one of the first
republics in the world (30 years before France), and its Constitution,
written in 1755 by Pasquale PAOLI, was used as a reference for the
constitution of the United States of America
(https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pasquale_Paoli).
- On a technical point of view, we're already using the 44.151.20.0/24
subnet (from France). And it would be technically enough to handle all
our future needs. The "internal" net is built on 10.x.y.0/24 subnets,
and only the external gateway has a 44.x address. Anyway, having a /16
would allow us to separate each region and city in /24 subnets, and use
44.x adresses everywhere (no more 10.x).
As you can see, this request is not really based on technical needs;
It's mostly a request to affirm our identity in the hamradio world.
I'm a Systems Engineer, specialized in network and telecom. I'll host
the backbone of the network in my professional datacenters (one in
France/OVH, and one here in Corsica). My company will give free hosting,
free VMs, free IP addresses and free bandwidth to the radio-club, so
that the network will benefit of latest technologies at no cost. We'll
also have BGP capabilities. TK5EP and I will be the sysadmins.
Then, would it be possible to get a /16 subnet for Corsica ?
Thank you in avance.
73 de TK1BI
Greetings fellow AMPRnetters,
Is the encap.txt file still available via anonymous FTP any longer?
That method was sweet and easy. I find the API rather clunky and so
prone to scripting errors (on my end). I'm trying to automate updating
the encap routes daily, and FTP has always been tried and true.
NO! Not interested in RIP as during emergencies when we need to
manually make changes to the routing tables they get overwritten by RIP.
So that is NOT a solution in an EMCOM environment, sorry.
So is plain-jane FTP still available???
Thanks!
--- Jay Nugent WB8TKL
Ypsilanti, Michigan
Hamgate.Washtenaw.AMPR.org
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Jean-Marc,
An easy way to check your system and to know if you are going thru Internet
or thru ampr.org is to ping my IPIP gateway at either 44.151.91.7 or
44.168.12.6
If the ping time is around 300ms you are coming in from Internet via
ucsd.edu and if the ping time is less than 100ms you are coming in thru the
IPIP tunnel.
For testing purpose, you can just manually create a few IPIP tunnels and
routes on your openwrt router.
.
Feel free to contact me directly as I am only a few km (Bures sur Yvette)
from your QRA.
You should even be able to connect the 44.168.x.x network via radio on the
5.7MHz band.
73 Remi F6CNB
