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Re: [44net] HAMNet France
by F6CNB 10 Feb '16

10 Feb '16

Hi Brian, My name is Remi F6CNB and I am in charge of developing the HAMNET network in France BUT I am not the IP address coordinator. The subnets are distributed by the coordinator outside the portail. I am using the hamnetdb.net to keep track of them. There are more than 50 sites currently active on the network. The network is growing fast in the Paris area with a lot of high speed backbones (typically 10 to 70Mbps). A lot of additional isolated subnets are existing in France including the very remote La Reunion island. They all are connected to the Paris area network thru gre tunnels. The main usages of the network are: VOIP, DMR/STAR repeater links, DATV repeater, Webcam, APRS ...... I got a script from our german hamnet friends to automatically update by email the main 44.0.0.0 DNS server from hamnetdb.net. I need to adapt it to handle the 44.168.0.0/16 network. Could you send me a description of the current way to update the DNS server by email and give me the privilege to do it? We also have a lot of issues with the current portail like I cannot assign 44.168.0.0/16 to my main ipip gateway (200Mbps connection both way) or the DNS registration not working. That is probably the main reason of poor DNS update. 73 Remi F6CNB (also W5/F6CNB 50% of the time)

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Re: [44net] A bit OT
by William Lewis 09 Feb '16

09 Feb '16

The method is there. It's just almost hidden. When you click "Database", you will see only data from 2011 and newer. While looking at the right-side frame, each entry has an "update" option. Look closely at the very first one, and just above the word "update" you will see the word "New" Click "New" to add your entry. When you enter your data, the website will then attempt to use your computers default email program to submit a new entry via email. Depending on your email program, it may or may not try to warn you that another device is attempting to use your email program to send data somewhere. Cheers Peter. Bill Lewis / KG6BAJ At 04:03 PM 2/9/2016, you wrote: >(Please trim inclusions from previous messages) >_______________________________________________ >Hi All, > > Sorry for my off topic question, I shall be brief. > >Does anyone know where or how to update the listing on > >http://www.ampr-gates.net/frame_e.htm

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A bit OT
by Peter Mallett 09 Feb '16

09 Feb '16

Hi All, Sorry for my off topic question, I shall be brief. Does anyone know where or how to update the listing on http://www.ampr-gates.net/frame_e.htm Is there another site ? Regards ..... Peter ZL2BAU

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Re: [44net] 44Net Digest, Vol 5, Issue 32
by f5pbg＠free.fr 09 Feb '16

09 Feb '16

Hello Brian, French Hamnet works fine on 44.151 subnet like you can see. This is the historic network, no problem on it. REF association ask for a new 44.168 subnet for their project. For 44.168 subnet, contact the coord F1TZV at f1tzv(a)evc.net I read the Hamlist of REF association http://ref-union.net/Hamnet/ and there is nothing since fews months. I just write a message on this list in order to know what happend. If i have a answer, i will put it here. Best regards, Ludovic - F5PBG. Le 09/02/2016 20:00, 44net-request(a)hamradio.ucsd.edu a écrit : > Message: 5 > Date: Tue, 9 Feb 2016 08:21:33 -0800 > From: Brian Kantor<Brian(a)UCSD.Edu> > To:44net@hamradio.ucsd.edu > Subject: [44net] HAMNet France > Message-ID:<20160209162133.GA14859(a)UCSD.Edu> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > Can anyone advise me of the status of the French HAMNet project? > > I've not heard anything from those folks in over a year, and the > coordinator for 44.168.0.0/16 hasn't logged into the portal since > May of 2015. > - Brian

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HAMNet France
by Brian Kantor 09 Feb '16

09 Feb '16

Can anyone advise me of the status of the French HAMNet project? I've not heard anything from those folks in over a year, and the coordinator for 44.168.0.0/16 hasn't logged into the portal since May of 2015. - Brian

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Re: [44net] DNS cleanup
by Rob Janssen 09 Feb '16

09 Feb '16

> Why does an hostname of an isolated system need to be resolved in a world > wide DNS? > It has no connection to the internet via the gw or to the tunnelling system, > so that DNS resolution will allways lead to an unreachable host. Because there really is no relation between IP allocation and routing. For example, back in the days when we ran a lowspeed IP packet network here and in surrounding countries (1987-2003 or thereabouts), it was strictly forbidden in the regulations to have a connection between a radio station and a public communication line. We had thousands of stations active but none reachable from internet. hostfiles were used instead of DNS, but the information in the hostsfiles was always replicated to the public DNS, to indicate what addresses are allocated to whom. Also, it would have been possible (had the software on the typical station supported it) to download a zonefile and use it offline. Now that we have linking over- and to internet, we are in fact still doing that. Our gateway downloads the zonefile from hamradio.ucsd.edu daily, and loads it in a local DNS server on 44-net, only reachable from the radio side. So even when we lose our internet connection, we can still resolve .ampr.org addresses as they were valid just before the breakdown. I don't think that "reachable from the internet" or "reachable from net-44 systems that tunnel over internet" should be a criterion for being in the .ampr.org DNS. (this does not even consider that there may be firewalls that make it impossible to detect for outsiders that a system is connected, while the system itself can perfectly make outgoing connections) Rob

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Re: [44net] DNS cleanup
by Rob Janssen 08 Feb '16

08 Feb '16

> If you look in the file that Brian posted you will see that there are no > 44.137.X.X (or 44.130.X.X) records in the list to be deleted. > So your DNS records should be okay. I know that, and that is why I am taking up the job myself. (I think it is a bit strange that the networks that are BGP or IPIP routed would not have to be cleaned) Rob

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Re: [44net] DNS cleanup
by Rob Janssen 08 Feb '16

08 Feb '16

> Since we cleaned up 44.130/16 a while ago, we have some hints for your > first cleanup round. Maybe you should consider taking obsolete CNAME- > and MX-records into account. Example: > to-be-deleted.txt: > g7suh IN A 44.131.254.242 > ampr.org: > 2e1arm IN CNAME g7suh Yes, please take good notice of that! Some time ago I have made a lot of effort to delete all dangling CNAME and MX records, hundreds of them. Apparently there have been cleanups where entire subnets worth of A records were deleted, but many MX and CNAME records still referred to them. It looks like at some time, for every A record created in certain US subnets, a corresponding MX record (just "call IN MX 10 call") had been created. A bit pointless, but worse is that those were not removed when the A records were removed. This time around, please make sure that whenever some record is removed, all records that point to it are also removed. As Jann correctly points out, there are MX records that point to external servers (although sometimes the trailing period was forgotten, making them inoperative). During the above cleanup, I found several of those that do not exist in DNS anymore, and deleted them as well. I did not check if the ones that still resolve would offer SMTP service and would accept mail to the specific domain name (in .ampr.org!). Probably lots of them don't. This weekend I sent out a mailing about renewing registration by tacking @amsat.org @veron.nl and @vrza.nl to all callsigns (the latter are two amateur societies here) and of course I got many delivery failures back where the address at the aliasing service exists, but the address the mail is forwarded to no longer exists. We are not the only one with this cleanup problem... Rob

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encap.txt
by Don Moore 08 Feb '16

08 Feb '16

I downloaded the encap.txt file just now and it doesn't match the gateway list. Is it not being updated or has something gone wrong in the process? 73, Don

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Re: [44net] DNS cleanup
by Rob Janssen 07 Feb '16

07 Feb '16

> People -- we need the cleanup. I say, be aggressive. If an active DNS > record gets deleted, just recreate it -- Sheesh. Maybe you have not understood it, but we are actually *using* the network. For places where it is just a leftover of the packet radio days, I agree. Today I deleted a number of old BBS records, and a few hours later I got a mail back that one that was still in use. We cannot do that for all 3000 active records. Rob

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