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Re: [44net] 44Net Digest, Vol 2, Issue 20
by Rob Janssen 05 Feb '13

05 Feb '13

44net-request(a)hamradio.ucsd.edu wrote: > An example: if I'm the San Diego county coordinator, and I assign a /24 > to AA6ZZ for a gateway in the Santee city area, he can become the > coordinator for that /24, and assign addresses from his block of 256 > addresses to the clients of his gateway. > > Likewise: > 44.0.0.0/9 is assigned to the USA, with me as the current USA coordinator, > 44.124.0.0/16 is assigned to Arizona and handled by the AZ coordinator > 44.124.128.0/24 might be assigned to a gateway in Phoenix who would then > handle address assignments for the clients of that gateway. > > So by registering gateway operators as coordinators for their gateway's > subnet, we localize the network management to the people who are the > best situated to handle it. But it has the disadvantage that you spread the rarely occurring task over many people who do it only once and do not have the knowledge and skills to perform it well. I'm afraid this will lead to many wrong subnet specifications (already seen), strange names in the DNS, questions, etc. I prefer to handle the task for the entire country and have the system only administer what has been assigned, not delegate the subassignments. It is a small country and I get only a couple of requests per year these days. Rob

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network management
by Brian Kantor 03 Feb '13

03 Feb '13

> User registration and network management are separate functions. I think > that after a user registers, any network (address, LAN, etc.) requests go > to the coordinator for that address space. An example: if I'm the San Diego county coordinator, and I assign a /24 to AA6ZZ for a gateway in the Santee city area, he can become the coordinator for that /24, and assign addresses from his block of 256 addresses to the clients of his gateway. Likewise: 44.0.0.0/9 is assigned to the USA, with me as the current USA coordinator, 44.124.0.0/16 is assigned to Arizona and handled by the AZ coordinator 44.124.128.0/24 might be assigned to a gateway in Phoenix who would then handle address assignments for the clients of that gateway. So by registering gateway operators as coordinators for their gateway's subnet, we localize the network management to the people who are the best situated to handle it. A new ham in Phoenix who wants to get on AMPRNet registers, goes to the networks section, clicks on USA, clicks on Arizona, sees the gateway registered in his area, and clicks on that to request an allocation. The gateway operator picks an available address, say 44.124.128.17, registers it and things are good to go. No need to wait for the state or national coordinator. You don't have to register nor log in just to view the network allocations and who the coordinator is, so folks who just want to know if there's a subnet or gateway in their area can see. - Brian

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Problem with France
by ze.bot＠free.fr 03 Feb '13

03 Feb '13

I think that there is a problem with a new allocation inside France 44.151.0.0. https://portal.ampr.org/networks.php?a=region&id=295 There is a declaration of one single user (not a network) with a /16 at the end... > Network Country Region Allocated to > 44.151.67.22/16 FR Alsace F6EQN [Michel BELLEZIT] Furtheremore, on his website, F5PBG invites all french users to register individually their IP on the "ampr.org" website. This will induce a lot of useless declarations. http://inforadio.free.fr/articles.php?lng=fr&pg=85 > # Changement de fonctionnement du réseau AMPR : > # INSCRIPTION OBLIGATOIRE POUR ETRE PRIS EN COMPTE > # à cette adresse : https://portal.ampr.org/ (Onglet "Register") > # puis après connexion réalisez votre demande (Onglet "Networks") Translation of this extract : > The AMPR network has changed > Registration is compulsory > at this adress : https://portal.ampr.org/ > click on "register", > and then after connexion, > put your request, click on "network". I think that an admin could delete this declaration, and put a reminder about what is an allocation, and what is a network, a subnet, etc... Thanks.

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Dynamic IP GATEWAYS?
by Demetre SV1UY 02 Feb '13

02 Feb '13

Hi, Any news about support for Dynamic IP Gateways yet without having to pester other Gateways having static IPs via AXUDP links? -- 73 de SV1UY Demetre Ch. Valaris e-mail: demetre.sv1uy(a)gmail.com Radio e-mail: sv1uy(a)winlink.org http://www.qsl.net/sv1uy

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ip updating
by K7ILO 02 Feb '13

02 Feb '13

Hello gang. Could an ip coordinator send me via direct email the email robot's address for adding and updating amprnet ip addresses? Thanks Harold K7ilo (formerly KB7RSI) Southern Nevada Ip Coordinator

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AMPRNET Donations
by Paul Delaney - K6HR 02 Feb '13

02 Feb '13

Exactly how will any donated funds be used, accounted for etc? Paul Delaney - K6HR paul.hamradio(a)verizon.net http://k6hr.dyndns.org:8080

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Re: [44net] gateway file
by kb9mwr＠gmail.com 01 Feb '13

01 Feb '13

What you have for a network over there makes me jealous. I guess I'd like to know what in terms of content is on the amprnet. I know there are some AXIP BBS style feeds and that sort of thing. Is anyone running a mailman mailing list of anything interesting? For higher speed radio connections are there any SIP/Asterisk conference servers, or at least FTP repositories of ham stuff? Stuff that is exclusive to the network. I have some point to point 802.11 links over here that I have been using 44 addresses on for a few years. But they haven't been connected to the rest of the amprnet. Is there a compelling reason to setup a gateway to the rest of the amprnet. 73' Steve ----Original--- Btw: We are currently deploying our IP management system for the HAMNET network: http://hamnetdb.net/?m=as&q=&as=-All-&tab=map You should be able to do a traceroute to all "green" sites... Click on a site and you get the description. 73, Jann DG8NGN On 31.01.2013 21:09, kb9mwr at gmail.com wrote: > I have one from Sept 2012 if anyone wants it. > > I second the importance of the data in that file. It's really the > only thing we had to tell what is on the amprnet, in terms of > services, and the speeds of the connected radio subnets, etc.

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Re: [44net] gateway file
by kb9mwr＠gmail.com 31 Jan '13

31 Jan '13

I have one from Sept 2012 if anyone wants it. I second the importance of the data in that file. It's really the only thing we had to tell what is on the amprnet, in terms of services, and the speeds of the connected radio subnets, etc. > Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2013 11:05:14 -0800 > From: Jack Eifer <jeifer(a)cwo.com> > To: AMPRNet working group <44net(a)hamradio.ucsd.edu> > Subject: Re: [44net] ip updating > > Chris, > > While we're on the subject of TODO's, > Has any consideration or thought been given to resurrecting the 'GATEWAY' file that Fuller maintained ? > > I found the information in file useful and easy to access. Perhaps the new website has the same info embedded, but somewhere I've yet to discover. > > Jack, AA6HF

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reminders
by Brian Kantor 31 Jan '13

31 Jan '13

Just a reminder for everyone, especially address coordinators, to please register with the portal. https://portal.ampr.org/ And a big thank you to those thoughtful folks who have donated to keeping the organization running. If you haven't yet sent in a donation, it's as easy as clicking on the donate link at the bottom of this message or on our web page. Even $25 would be a great help. Thank you! - Brian

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the next step in portal deployment
by Brian Kantor 27 Jan '13

27 Jan '13

As the next step in deployment of the AMPRNet Portal, we're going to begin using it to refer people to their coordinators. How this works is this: A ham wanting an address assignment will register with the portal and click on the NETWORKS selection. He'll be presented with a list of countries; for some countries, clicking on that entry will get him to a list of regions within the country, etc. If there isn't a coordinator registered with the portal for his particular area (or country), he'll have to pick the enclosing region. Eg, if there isn't an entry for say, Alabama, he'll pick the USA entry and I'll get the request. I can then allocate a block for Alabama (rather, I'll use the one that's already set aside for that state) and assign him an address from that block. I'll probably ask him if he'd like to become the coordinator too. (Always looking for volunteers.) Once his region is selected, he'll be presented with a simple form that asks what netwidth he wants (/32 for a single host, /24 for the typical 256 host subnet, etc), how he's planning on connecting to the greater internet, and a Notes area in which he can explain anything special about his request. This will generate an email to the coordinator registered for the subnet he clicked on above, who can request further particulars if needed. The above procedure is mentioned in the FAQ on the www.ampr.org website. What's the advantage to doing it this way? Among other things, it means that there is no longer the problem of finding the email address of a coordinator from an always-outdated list. It's less work for me to handle referrals, and the portal mechanism will ensure that there is consistent data for everyone. It's very important that every coordinator get registered with the portal for this system to work. I urge everyone on this mailing list to register, and those of you who are coordinators should contact Chris to get your registration listed as the coordinator for your region. Thank you! - Brian To replay Chris's instructions: _______________________________________________ Now is probably a good time to ask everyone that is currently using an IP or IPs from the 44/8 to register on the portal: https://portal.ampr.org Click on the "Register" link to the right of "Home" in the top menu. Fill in the details requested and hit the "Register" button, you will be sent an email with a link you need to click on to verify your email address. When you click the link the web page will ask you to enter the username you entered on the original request, click the "Confirm" button and your login details will be emailed back to you. Use the details to login to https://portal.ampr.org Your first job should be to change your password to something secure that you will remember: Click on the "Profile" menu link, to the right of "Allocations". Here you can update your details, including your login password. If you already operate a gateway, please drop me an email and I can assign it to your account. If you already have subnets allocated to you within the 44/8 please drop me an email and, as per the gateways, I can assign them to your account. If you are a country co-ordinator or a regional co-ordinator, please get in touch asap, so you can be setup on the portal to manage the allocations of your subnets. Thanks, Chris - G1FEF _________________________________________

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