22 Mar
2014
22 Mar
'14
6:10 p.m.
I keep hearing complaints that we should "get away from using IP-IP
tunnels and just route the 44-net address space using BGP".
Can someone explain what this means and how this would be done ?
- Be sure read up on BCP38 http://tools.ietf.org/html/bcp38 to
understand why your local ISP won't (and shouldn't) let you source
traffic from IP addresses other than theirs
- Explain how you would justify and obtain stable funding to get (and
keep) an ASN for the 44-net address space ($500 initial, $100/yr
maintenance from ARIN). An ASN is necessary for multi-homing and BGP
routing.
- Explain to me what financial incentive a commercial ISP has to
routing (or peering with) 44-net address space for a small number of
customers.
- As for using VPN's, explain how to pay for and maintain the
appropriate size server(s) to host CPU-intensive VPN (IPSec and GRE)
end-points.
After understanding all the nuances of 44-net, I find that the mesh
of IP-IP tunnels and the rip44d daemon are actually quite an elegant
solution to the limitations and constraints we have to work with.
-Neil
On Sat, Mar 22, 2014 at 2:23 PM, Bryan Fields <Bryan(a)bryanfields.net> wrote:
(Please trim inclusions from previous messages)
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On 3/22/14, 11:14 AM, Geoff Joy wrote:
--
Neil Johnson
http://erudicon.com
What I see above from both of you is "this
is a mess, someone needs to
clean it up, but that someone isn't going to be me". I must boldly
state that if you have the time to discern a problem and criticize a
state of affairs, you have the time to take ownership of that problem
and fix it.
+1
I've said there are numerous things I don't care for with the way 44net is
used and deployed (not a personal attack :).
I've also mentioned I don't have the time to write up proposals and do stuff
to change it. As such I'm not going to bitch about it (or at least try not to).
I'd be happy to start a working group if I have some help, but between my day
job, building a simulcast repeater system, and doing the paperwork to get our
repeater group to to be 501c3 non-profit I just don't have the time to do it
all myself. I for one would like to get away from the IPIP encap, and get
more distributed interconnects to the internet for 44/8.
73's
--
Bryan Fields
727-409-1194 - Voice
727-214-2508 - Fax
http://bryanfields.net
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