22 Apr
2022
22 Apr
'22
3:49 a.m.
Hi Rosy
groups.io is the obvious choice here.
Ticks the boxes of:
- simple, modern, widely adopted and not just by hams
- doesn’t need someone to maintain some server
- keeps the format of email
- also has a good web UI
- free/cheap
Best regards
Tom
On Fri, 22 Apr 2022 at 02:12, Rosy Schechter - KJ7RYV via 44net <
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Thanks for the discussion, folks.
Have people enjoyed groups.io better?
Rosy Schechter - KJ7RYV
Executive Director
Amateur Radio Digital Communications (ARDC)
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On 4/21/22 6:08 PM, Damien Gardner via 44net wrote:
unable to
wrote:
DMARC
all
44net
for
old
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Yeah I'm just adding my vote for please god,
do NOT move to discourse.
SAGE-AU moved to discourse a couple of years ago, and it killed the
organisation. As it turned out, like 90% of the members REALLY like
email, and had absolutely no interest in moving their conversations to a
web message board. As much as discourse likes to say it supports email,
it really doesn't do a good job of it, and with members cracking the
shits and leaving, SAGE-AU went broke last year, and now we don't have a
peak body for IT Professionals in Australia.
--DG
On Fri, 22 Apr 2022 at 11:03, Jim Kutsch KY2D via 44net
<44net(a)mailman.ampr.org <mailto:44net@mailman.ampr.org>> wrote:
Hi,
Here's just one vote *NOT* to use Discourse. It's a discussion
system, not email. So we have to go there to see if anything is new
rather than just having info come in our inbox. For me (YMMMV) I
find it like having an inconvenient PO Box that you have to
intentionally go visit to see if anything is there vs. mail being
delivered to my home mailbox.
73 Jim KY2D
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From: Rosy Schechter - KJ7RYV via 44net <44net(a)mailman.ampr.org
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Sent: Thursday, April 21, 2022 20:53
To: 44net(a)mailman.ampr.org <mailto:44net@mailman.ampr.org>
Subject: [44net] Re: Mailman migration
Hey Jeff,
Great question. As it turns out, we are in fact looking to switch to
Discourse.
https://www.discourse.org/ <https://www.discourse.org/>
Curious if folks haved used it and like it.
Rosy
Rosy Schechter - KJ7RYV
Executive Director
Amateur Radio Digital Communications (ARDC)
ampr.org <http://ampr.org>
On 4/21/22 5:44 PM, Jeff Hochberg via 44net wrote:
wrote:
Evidently, some of the configurations were
transferred over, but
not the
user database. I'm unable to authenticate
and, even if I try to
perform
password recovery, I get the following message:
"The e-mail address is not assigned to any user account"
Not for anything but why not just switch to something like Google
Groups
or Groups.io instead of having someone host a
Mailman server?
Jeff Hochberg
W4JEW
Atlanta, GA
jeff(a)w4jew.com <mailto:jeff@w4jew.com> <mailto:jeff@w4jew.com
<mailto:jeff@w4jew.com>>
On Thu, Apr 21, 2022 at 11:03 AM Mike Tindor via 44net
<44net(a)mailman.ampr.org <mailto:44net@mailman.ampr.org>
<mailto:44net@mailman.ampr.org <mailto:44net@mailman.ampr.org>>> >
> I too have the same issue with regard to logging in to
mailman.
> The password reset claims my Gmail
address is not a valid
user ("
The
e-mail address is not assigned to any user account ")
Mike / AA8IA
On Thu, Apr 21, 2022 at 10:56 AM Jon Anhold <jon(a)anhold.com
<mailto:jon@anhold.com>
> <mailto:jon@anhold.com <mailto:jon@anhold.com>>> wrote:
>
> Looks like this lost my digest preference, and I am > login via the web interface to
change it - it says I am
not a
user when I try to reset my password.
73 de KM8V
On Thu, Apr 21, 2022 at 10:51 AM Mike Tindor via 44net
<44net(a)mailman.ampr.org <mailto:44net@mailman.ampr.org>
<mailto:44net@mailman.ampr.org <mailto:44net@mailman.ampr.org>>>
Looks like there might be a little more to do, with
regard
> to email reputation.
>
> SPF and DKIM signing fail, and there is a published > record that quarantines
100% of DMARC failures. So
the
list emails are going to end up in spam folders (they
ended
up in my Gmail spam folder) because
SPF/DKIM/DMARC
all failed.
2a0a:bb00:0:44::1d needs added to themailman.ampr.org
<http://themailman.ampr.org> <http://mailman.ampr.org
<http://mailman.ampr.org>> SPF record
and it appears themailman.ampr.org
<http://themailman.ampr.org> <http://mailman.ampr.org
<http://mailman.ampr.org>> emails are being signed with anARDC.NET
<http://ARDC.NET <http://ARDC.NET>> DKIM key rather than
amailman.ampr.org <http://amailman.ampr.org>
<http://mailman.ampr.org <http://mailman.ampr.org>> DKIM key
Mike / AA8IA
On Thu, Apr 21, 2022 at 9:07 AM Chris Smith via 44net
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<mailto:44net@mailman.ampr.org>
<mailto:44net@mailman.ampr.org
<mailto:44net@mailman.ampr.org>>> wrote:
Hello All,
FYI, we had an issue with the mailing list server
last week:
The server the mailing list is hosted on
experienced an
> unexpected reboot. The server came back up ok and
the services associated with the mailing list
continued
to run, so Nagios (the
application we use to
monitor our
systems) did not report any
issues. However, the
sudden
reboot had corrupted several open
files
associated with
> the mailing list software (Mailman 2.1) and the
mailing list was not passing emails. As the list
often
> goes through quiet periods this was not noticed
several days.
Unfortunately the backup period for the server
was only
set to a few days and by the time
the issue was
investigated all the available backups were of the
corrupted files.
As the longer term plan was always to migrate
from the
older (now unsupported) Mailman
2.1 to the latest
Mailman 3.1 the decision was taken to migrate the
mailing list to a new server. ARDC already has a
Mailman
3 server for some internal
mailing lists, so we
migrated
> the 44net list there.
>
> I am pleased to report that the archives from the > server were
successfully migrated over, so no
loss of
data there thankfully.
The web interface for the new home of 44net can
be found
here:
<
https://mailman.ardc.net/mailman3/postorius/lists/44net.mailman.ampr.org/&g…
The MX record has been updated to point to the new
server, so you should continue to send emails to
44net(a)mailman.ampr.org <mailto:44net@mailman.ampr.org>
<mailto:44net@mailman.ampr.org <mailto:44net@mailman.ampr.org>>
to post to the list.
I want to take this opportunity to thank John -
KI5D for
hosting the mailing list since we
had the last
big crash
in 2012. The mailman server, with
John looking
after it
has provided excellent service to
the community.
John is
going to continue to help out by
acting as admin
for the
44net mailing list on it’s new
home.
Best 73,
Chris - G1FEF
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