22 Dec
2022
22 Dec
'22
3:41 a.m.
About seven years ago I wrote some python scripts for Brian that took the full ampr.org
DNS zone file and:
* Pulled out all the call signs.
* Checked if the IP address related to the call signs had an entry in the portal
database.
* For those call signs that weren't in the portal database, I attempted to see if the
call sign was still active by checking QRZ.com or the latest (at that time) Radio Amateur
Call book ("The flying horse") database.
The goal was to try to find an e-mail address and contact the amateur operator to see if
they still needed the allocation.
At the time over 35% of the callsigns (~14K) were not found in either database.
There were many entries that did not have e-mail addresses (mostly ones from Europe that
were redacted due to privacy laws).
Brian decided that with so many unknowns it wasn't worth proceeding.
-Neil N0SFH
On Wed, Dec 21, 2022, at 1:52 PM, Tony Langdon via 44net wrote:
The new portal sounds good. I know any DNS entries in
my 44.136/24 allocation are out of date, and carry over from the previous holder of that
allocation. Having control of my DNS would allow me to make appropriate updates.
On 22/12/22 6:34 am, Chris Smith via 44net wrote:
--
Neil Johnson
Hi David,
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73 de Tony VK3JED/VK3IRL
http://vkradio.com
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Hey Chris,
It is most certainly the case that there are many entries in DNS that do not have
corresponding entries in the portal. However, the whole point of the portal was to have a
way to manage the assignments. One of Brian Kantor’s main problems was not knowing when
someone no longer required an assignment - if they lose interest, they tend not to bother
letting anyone know and if the worst happens and they go SK then they clearly can’t let us
know.
Brian’s decision was to have a cut off date of a year after the portal came online - if
the end user hadn’t got in touch to claim their entry by then, the entry was considered
not required. This 12 month period has long since expired (by over 8 years!) so if there
is anyone that hasn’t claimed their assignment after over 8 years it is highly unlikely
they will do so now, and if they do then they can always have it re-assigned.
Incidentally this is the reason behind the portal removing accounts (and assignments)
after 12 months of not seeing the user logging in.
For anyone that is interested - the portal did originally have DNS management built in
(actually it still does, it’s just disabled). Unfortunately there was no easy way of
matching up DNS entries with accounts on the portal. Brian was still working on the best
way to import and match the data when he left us.
The new portal will have DNS management live from the start (end users will be able to
manage their own entries), building on Brian’s work we’ve figured out how to match up the
majority of the wanted DNS entries, but when the new portal does eventually go live, there
will be a window of opportunity (probably 12 months) during which folk will be able to
claim their entries, after which they will be disabled (removed from the zonefile), at
that point if anyone complains things have stopped working their entries can be re-enabled
and assigned to their account. After a further period (probably another 12 months) the
disabled entries will be removed.
We have literally thousands of DNS entries, my best guess is over 60% of them are
redundant, it really does need cleaning up!
So I re-iterate my request to get in touch if anyone knows of any ARDC address space that
is being used that is not registered on the portal. I am more than happy to work with
anyone that needs to import assignments into the portal without having to go through the
formal request/approve process.
73,
Chris - G1FEF
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I would urge you to get in touch and work with me
to correct this. The bottom line is - if it’s not in the portal database, it’s free for
assignment elsewhere.
This is not the case. I also have examples in my 44.4.0.0/16 subnet of active user
allocations that existed before the portal was created. I have been reaching out to those
users who have DNS entries but don't have portal entries to clarify the situation and
try to get them to request to make a portal request for their previous allocation. This
can be very difficult at time as people don't have email addresses in qrz.com or
finding an email address via the Internet.
Putting it another way, I consider an IP/subnet to be either "in use" or
"under review" if there is a DNS entry but nothing in the AMPR portal.