Re: [44net] DNS cleanup

The active DNS records/users are the real customers here. All this bookkeeping and number fandangling is just to facilitate and enhance what they're doing. The technology exists to make it all auto-magic and that's how it should be... A ping, telnet, ftp or email on a regular basis should be enough of a keep-alive to preserve registration. Bill, WA7NWP > > > > On Sun, Feb 7, 2016 at 11:54 AM, Rob Janssen &lt;pe1chl(a)amsat.org&gt; wrote: > >> (Please trim inclusions from previous messages) >> _______________________________________________ >> >>> What would you have me do? It's clear that the majority of the entries in >>> the DNS are bogus. We have NOTHING to reference except the portal data. >>> Doesn't it make sense to try to get that data in order? >>> >> >> Yes, but as I mentioned many times before, there is no sane way of >> migrating the >> data that *is* still valid towards the portal. There is no clear way for >> the user >> to request their existing allocation to be loaded into the portal. Not >> automatically >> (e.g. by querying the DNS), not manually (by filling in a form with >> existing addresses). >> >> One can only ask for new allocations and place a comment that says in fact >> one wants >> to move an existing allocation. I cannot ask the users to do that, and I >> don't >> like to edit all those requests manually. I think the portal should >> facilitate >> migration of existing data at least until that process is completed. >> There should also be procedures to migrate large blocks of data, as our >> own network >> infrastructure has hundreds of hosts that I do not want to enter in a >> webform one by >> one! >> >> I have recovered all update mail messages sent to the portal after >> 1994-01-01 and >> have added a date stamp to all the lines in my own hosts file with the >> latest >> date of an addition of data for each callsign. >> The file is available at http://pe1chl.nl.eu.org/hosts/hosts.137 >> >> Today I have done another mailing and a local amateur radio newssite has >> placed >> it on their newspage. This time I requested all the users that want to >> *keep* their >> allocation to reply by mail. >> >> When I get a reply or make a new registration I update the stamp to the >> current date. >> Next month I will just delete all records with a date before 2010. >> That should get rid of all the records from "the old days" and only leave >> those that >> were added during our more recent experiments. Last time I did this (two >> years ago) >> I kept the records for those that I could not reach, but this time those >> will get >> deleted. (of course they can always request to get them back when they >> notice it) >> >> Rob >> >> >> _________________________________________ >> 44Net mailing list >> 44Net(a)hamradio.ucsd.edu >> http://hamradio.ucsd.edu/mailman/listinfo/44net >> > > > > -- > > ------------------------------ > John D. Hays > K7VE > PO Box 1223, Edmonds, WA 98020-1223 > <http://k7ve.org/blog> <http://twitter.com/#!/john_hays> > <http://www.facebook.com/john.d.hays> >