21 Apr
2022
21 Apr
'22
9:17 p.m.
It seems most of my mailing lists have migrated to groups.io, and it seems to work well.
The free service may be limited to 100 or so members.Sent via the Samsung Galaxy S21 Ultra
5G, an AT&T 5G smartphone
-------- Original message --------From: Rosy Schechter - KJ7RYV via 44net
<44net(a)mailman.ampr.org> Date: 4/21/22 9:13 PM (GMT-05:00) To:
44net(a)mailman.ampr.org Subject: [44net] Re: Mailman migration Thanks for the discussion,
folks.Have people enjoyed groups.io better?Rosy Schechter - KJ7RYVExecutive
DirectorAmateur Radio Digital Communications (ARDC)ampr.orgOn 4/21/22 6:08 PM, Damien
Gardner via 44net wrote:> Yeah I'm just adding my vote for please god, do NOT move
to discourse. > SAGE-AU moved to discourse a couple of years ago, and it killed the
> organisation. As it turned out, like 90% of the members REALLY like > email, and
had absolutely no interest in moving their conversations to a > web message board. As
much as discourse likes to say it supports email, > it really doesn't do a good job
of it, and with members cracking the > shits and leaving, SAGE-AU went broke last year,
and now we don't have a > peak body for IT Professionals in Australia.> >
--DG> > On Fri, 22 Apr 2022 at 11:03, Jim Kutsch KY2D via 44net >
<44net(a)mailman.ampr.org <mailto:44net@mailman.ampr.org>> wrote:> >
Hi,> Here's just one vote *NOT* to use Discourse. It's a discussion>
system, not email. So we have to go there to see if anything is new> rather than
just having info come in our inbox. For me (YMMMV) I> find it like having an
inconvenient PO Box that you have to> intentionally go visit to see if anything is
there vs. mail being> delivered to my home mailbox.> > 73 Jim KY2D>
> > -----Original Message-----> From: Rosy Schechter - KJ7RYV via 44net
<44net(a)mailman.ampr.org> <mailto:44net@mailman.ampr.org>>> Sent:
Thursday, April 21, 2022 20:53> To: 44net(a)mailman.ampr.org
<mailto:44net@mailman.ampr.org>> Subject: [44net] Re: Mailman migration>
> Hey Jeff,> > Great question. As it turns out, we are in fact looking to
switch to> Discourse.> > https://www.discourse.org/
<https://www.discourse.org/>> > Curious if folks haved used it and like
it.> > Rosy> > Rosy Schechter - KJ7RYV> Executive
Director> Amateur Radio Digital Communications (ARDC)> ampr.org
<http://ampr.org>> > On 4/21/22 5:44 PM, Jeff Hochberg via 44net
wrote:> > Evidently, some of the configurations were transferred over,
but> not the> > user database. I'm unable to authenticate and, even
if I try to> perform> > password recovery, I get the following
message:> >> > "The e-mail address is not assigned to any user
account"> >> > Not for anything but why not just switch to
something like Google> Groups> > or Groups.io instead of having someone
host a Mailman server?> >> > Jeff Hochberg> >
W4JEW> > Atlanta, GA> > jeff(a)w4jew.com <mailto:jeff@w4jew.com>
<mailto:jeff@w4jew.com> <mailto:jeff@w4jew.com>>> >>
>> > On Thu, Apr 21, 2022 at 11:03 AM Mike Tindor via 44net> >
<44net(a)mailman.ampr.org <mailto:44net@mailman.ampr.org>>
<mailto:44net@mailman.ampr.org <mailto:44net@mailman.ampr.org>>>
wrote:> >> > I too have the same issue with regard to logging in
to mailman.> > The password reset claims my Gmail address is not a valid
user ("> > The e-mail address is not assigned to any user account
")> >> > Mike / AA8IA> >> > On
Thu, Apr 21, 2022 at 10:56 AM Jon Anhold <jon(a)anhold.com>
<mailto:jon@anhold.com>> > <mailto:jon@anhold.com
<mailto:jon@anhold.com>>> wrote:> >> > Looks
like this lost my digest preference, and I am unable to> > login via
the web interface to change it - it says I am not a> > user when I try
to reset my password.> >> > 73 de KM8V>
>> > On Thu, Apr 21, 2022 at 10:51 AM Mike Tindor via 44net>
> <44net(a)mailman.ampr.org <mailto:44net@mailman.ampr.org>>
<mailto:44net@mailman.ampr.org <mailto:44net@mailman.ampr.org>>>
wrote:> >> > Looks like there might be a little more to
do, with> regard> > to email reputation.>
>> > SPF and DKIM signing fail, and there is a published
DMARC> > record that quarantines 100% of DMARC failures. So
the> > list emails are going to end up in spam folders
(they> ended> > up in my Gmail spam folder) because
SPF/DKIM/DMARC> all failed.> >> >
2a0a:bb00:0:44::1d needs added to themailman.ampr.org>
<http://themailman.ampr.org> <http://mailman.ampr.org>
<http://mailman.ampr.org>> SPF record> >> >
and it appears themailman.ampr.org> <http://themailman.ampr.org>
<http://mailman.ampr.org> <http://mailman.ampr.org>> emails are being
signed with anARDC.NET > <http://ARDC.NET <http://ARDC.NET>> DKIM key
rather than> amailman.ampr.org <http://amailman.ampr.org> >
<http://mailman.ampr.org <http://mailman.ampr.org>> DKIM key>
>> > Mike / AA8IA> >> >> >
On Thu, Apr 21, 2022 at 9:07 AM Chris Smith via 44net> >
<44net(a)mailman.ampr.org> <mailto:44net@mailman.ampr.org>
<mailto:44net@mailman.ampr.org> <mailto:44net@mailman.ampr.org>>>
wrote:> >> > Hello All,> >> >
FYI, we had an issue with the mailing list server> last
week:> >> > The server the mailing list is hosted
on> experienced an> > unexpected reboot. The server came
back up ok and all> > the services associated with the mailing
list> continued> > to run, so Nagios (the application we
use to> monitor our> > systems) did not report any
issues. However, the> sudden> > reboot had corrupted
several open files> associated with> > the mailing list
software (Mailman 2.1) and the 44net> > mailing list was not
passing emails. As the list> often> > goes through quiet
periods this was not noticed for> > several days.>
>> > Unfortunately the backup period for the server >
was only> > set to a few days and by the time the issue
was> > investigated all the available backups were of
the> > corrupted files.> >> >
As the longer term plan was always to migrate> from the> >
older (now unsupported) Mailman 2.1 to the latest> >
Mailman 3.1 the decision was taken to migrate the> > mailing
list to a new server. ARDC already has a> Mailman> > 3
server for some internal mailing lists, so we> migrated> >
the 44net list there.> >> > I am pleased to
report that the archives from the old> > server were
successfully migrated over, so no loss of> > data there
thankfully.> >> > The web interface for the new home
of 44net can> be found> > here:> >>
>>
https://mailman.ardc.net/mailman3/postorius/lists/44net.mailman.ampr.org/&g…
<https://mailman.ardc.net/mailman3/postorius/lists/44net.mailman.ampr.org/>>
> >
<https://mailman.ardc.net/mailman3/postorius/lists/44net.mailman.ampr.org/
<https://mailman.ardc.net/mailman3/postorius/lists/44net.mailman.ampr.org/>>>
>> > The MX record has been updated to point to the
new> > server, so you should continue to send emails
to> > 44net(a)mailman.ampr.org <mailto:44net@mailman.ampr.org>>
<mailto:44net@mailman.ampr.org <mailto:44net@mailman.ampr.org>>> >
to post to the list.> >> > I want to
take this opportunity to thank John -> KI5D for> >
hosting the mailing list since we had the last> big crash> >
in 2012. The mailman server, with John looking> after it> >
has provided excellent service to the community.> John is> >
going to continue to help out by acting as admin> for the>
> 44net mailing list on it’s new home.> >> >
Best 73,> > Chris - G1FEF> >>
>> >
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