Rob, Sorry, I forgot to say which site: separs.ampr.org http://separs.ampr.org/. Yes, there are indexed ampr.org http://ampr.org/ subdomains, but I don’t seem to be getting my point access. Those domains are older and indexing no longer works. Eventually according to Google, they will fall off their indexing. Google indexing can no longer reach them or any new site. It doesn’t matter if you have links, Google can’t index ampr.org http://ampr.org/ subdomains so when it follows thew link, it’ll fail to index. And here is how I know that: 1) I created the Gateway. 2) I created the website separs.ampr.org http://separs.ampr.org/ 3) I logged into the “Google Search Console” 4) I could not have Google verify site ownership. It seemed block to them. 5) I asked Brian to add a TXT entry, as per the Google Search console instructions. 6) Initialy Brian did not want to do it, saying he didn’t want Google crawling all the 44net IPs 7)I assured him that it was only for site verification and they would only crawl my site. 8) he agreed and through the Google Search Console I had the site ownership Verified. 9)I attempted to have the Google Search Console crawl the site. It declined indicating "no errors" but an “anomaly” 10) I tried quite a few times: a) as the site is now (declined “anomoly”). b) I tried with deleted my robots file. (declined “anomoly”) c) I tried by removing everything in my public_html directory and added only a file index.html file (declined “anomaly”) 11) I added a sitemap.xml to the search console (and the Google Search Console downloaded it. It then said it would not index because of an “anomoly” . 12) The Google Search Console will not index and always says it is due to an “anomoly” It makes it clear it is "not an error". The site is accessible, but an “anomoly” stops the index. 13) This is where I contacted "my friend” (more of an associate rally) and I asked her what an “anomoly” would be. She checked and said the “anomoly” is related to either DNS, Meta header, or robots.txt in the TDL (ampr.org http://ampr.org/) preventing Google from indexing. She made it clear that Google tries very hard to honor any setting that suggests the site does not want indexing. So that’t where the “friend” comes into play. I’m sure you all know that under normal circumstances there is no possibility to contact Google. I was fortunate I had someone I could ask. I’d hoped her information would help sort this out. 14) She also advised me that a quick look at ampr.org http://ampr.org/ subdomains that have been indexed (those that you’ve suggested prove indexing works) are well over 1 year old (usually 2 or more.) Those sites will not be reindexed as things stand today, unless the “anomoly” is corrected. New sites will not be indexed - ever! (unless something changes and regardless of how many links you have on other sites) I couldn’t get her to tell me exactly what the problem is because I don’t own ampr.org http://ampr.org/. Probably because she is only an associate that I met twice and doesn’t really know me that well. I don’t own ampr.org http://ampr.org/ after all.
So I’m hoping this clarified the issue. Please add your own site to the search console and see what I mean. If you can get it to index, then I’d like to know what is different between yours and mine.
73 Roger VA7LBB
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From: Rob Janssen pe1chl@amsat.org Subject: Re: [44net] Google indexing Date: May 6, 2019 at 2:27:24 AM PDT To: "44net@mailman.ampr.org" 44net@mailman.ampr.org
When one asked what your site was, you didn't reply. If it's va7llb.ampr.org, it is unreachable from the internet today. That'd stop more than Google indexer...
As we still did not get that information, I checked the DNS zone and there are only two TXT records for google site verification. One is for va4wan.ampr.org and their site is indexed by Google, no problem there. You can lookup site:va4wan.ampr.org to confirm that. (again: the "site:" in that is important, don't omit it)
The other is for separs.ampr.org and Google does not yet know about them. So probably he is discussing that. It appears to work OK when visited inside and outside of AMPRnet and its robots.txt also appears OK.
I think it is just external linking that is required. Try to get a link to your site from the city website where it had an information page before. Make links from your local club, from private sites of your members, etc. Then Google becomes more convinced that this is a useful site that people may want to visit, rather than some scam that wants to have quick visitors and then disappear. (of which they probably get thousands a day submitted)
And of course you need patience. It will not happen overnight. We all know that it is difficult to communicate with them and that they do what they themselves consider appropriate. You will have to live with that, we all do.
Rob
From: Heikki Hannikainen hessu@hes.iki.fi Subject: Re: [44net] 44Net VPN? Date: May 6, 2019 at 3:09:50 AM PDT To: AMPRNet working group 44net@mailman.ampr.org
On Tue, 30 Apr 2019, KJ7DMC wrote:
Hello, This is sort of a follow up to my last email, which I ended up figuring out. This link, http://he.fi/amprnet-vpn/amprnet-vpn-win.zip to download the amprnet crt file is invalid. Any idea where I would obtain that file from?
Hi,
The download links for the VPN config files work again now. Sorry for the website outage; server migration taking a bit longer than expected due to Real Life Events (TM). :)
The included certificates are signed with weaker-than-desired hash algorithms, and modern TLS/VPN software are beginning to reject them. I suppose I'll have to make new ones soon and publish new config files along with them. The security issue is not that huge on AMPRnet use, but it'd be nice if it worked out of the box.
- Hessu
From: lleachii lleachii@aol.com Subject: Google indexing Date: May 6, 2019 at 11:45:48 AM PDT To: 44net@mailman.ampr.org
All,Don't these sites all appear to be indexed in the past?73,- LynwoodKB3VWG null
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