[44net] Re: Time to say "Goodbye".

Hello, concerning this story I took my time before answering... So as not to make the same language errors.    😉 Chris is very involved in the management of this network. I do not appreciate that people speaks bad thing about him.   🙁 Go on https://annuaire-amateurs.anfr.fr and insert "20" in "code postal". "20" is The Corsica and until proven otherwise it is France. There are about 200 radio amateurs on the island. Lot of hams in France do not use Hamnet, take a large value of 10% of them. That would make 20 peoples interested by Hamnet in Corsica ? ==================================== Number of hamnet user in Corsica So I'll keep the number 50, you'll see why later. ==================================== ================================================== =====================  Hystory  ===================== ================================================== Now a bit of history. around the 2000s i wanted to have a little fun with Hamnet. I was looking for who took care of Hamnet in France. I find ther person  and he tells me that he's tired with french users, that if I wanted to take over management, I could. I was not very interested in management, I asked french radio amateurs and nobody wanted to do it. So I kept up to date the "French Hamnet IPs" 44.151. One day the site ampr.org appeared and Chris or Brian (Kantor) contact me to ask me if i want to coordinate on the site the 44.151 IPs. I searched for all radio amateurs who had an IP to register. It was done ================================================== =================  1st type encounter  ================= ================================================== People from the so-called french national association contact me when hamnet begins to be known in France. They tell me that they want to take over the management of the IPs and want to reset all. I refuse because nearly 300 french people are having fun with IPs and they didn't ask for anything. I suggest that they pass on the management of half of the IPs to them : 44.151.128.0 / 17 No more answer from the french "national" association and after a while I see appear 44.168 I asked Brian Kantor about it. He told me that he had been told that 44.151 was for packet and that France needed more IPs... That was obviously wrong and i explained what i just explained to Brian Brian, amused by the situation, answered me: Ah these French, they are indeed the descendants of Napoleon.     😂 There is no competition between 44.151 and 44.168 , the organization is different... see https://portal.ampr.org/networks.php?a=region&id=295 and https://portal.ampr.org/networks.php?a=region&id=631 ================================================== ============= encounter of the 2nd type  ================ ================================================== Now TK1BI contact me in order to have IP for Corsica. From my memory He asked me for a /16 domain ... 65 534 IPs for 50 persons ?!  (remember the number 50 up...) 😂 I logically "offer" him IPs in 44.151.20 Corsica is just a french department like the others. He refused. (it was before the possibility of requesting an allocation for BGP) So end for me. By the claim of the delete of the 44.190 allocation, I discovered at the same time as you that TK1BI had managed to get its /16... He is very clever, like the french "national" association. So... 44.151 + 44.168 + 44.190 => almost 200 000 IP v4 for... 13 000 frenchs hams I am almost certain that less than 1000 French radio amateurs are interested in hamnet... 😉 ================================================== ============= encounter of the 3nd type  ================ ================================================== Nothing, no E.T. contact me. 😛 So BGP are available now on the 44 net. No problem, now possible to have /16 in BGP with Hamnet. I was contacted to warn those who had a BGP that the IPs were going to migrate. For the moment they are here : https://portal.ampr.org/networks.php?a=region&id=1010 44.151.128.0 / 24     F5RRY - BGP via AS212760     F5RRY 44.151.129.0 / 24     F5PBG - BGP via AS212972     F5PBG 44.151.139.0 / 24     F4ALM - BGP via AS64769     F4ALM 44.151.200.0 / 24     F4HIN - BGP via AS209097     F4HIN 44.151.210.0 / 23     F4INU - BGP via AS206155     F4INU 44.151.220.0 / 24     F4HVX - BGP via AS51083     F4HVX No problem for us. I don't see why this would be a problem for TK1BI (no need to answer, I read the arguments). In summary, why this message ? To show that the French correspond to the well-known caricature ? They look for side roads by shunting intermediaries. They protest for almost nothing.    😉 Does TK1BI represent all Corsicans ? I hope there is not only one person to configure all the equipments in Corsica.   😂 If Corsicans want to have Hamnet IPs, they will go through the french coords 44.151 or 44.168. In summary, all my support to those who allow us to have fun with this amateur network. I think about Chris - G1FEF of course and all others personns in all countries Let's stay in the spirit of Brian kantor. Best regards, Ludovic Vuillermet - F5PBG http://f5pbg.free.fr