Interesting reading!
I too would like to see a routed approach - all this clumsy tunnelling house of cards junk is never going to be reliable.
The overly-managed approach doesn't help either. It needs to be far simpler to manage a /24 than what we have now. All the legal speak in that "contract" can get binned too.
As far as outdoor links are concerned - why do you not use the Ubiquiti 2.4,3.3, and 5.8Ghz gear? It goes really really over long distances even without external amps, and will happily run in the ham bands.
Steve
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Message: 1 Date: Sun, 26 Jan 2014 18:09:57 -0500 From: Bryan Fields Bryan@bryanfields.net To: AMPRNet working group 44net@hamradio.ucsd.edu Subject: Re: [44net] amprnet portal Message-ID: 52E595C5.9090303@bryanfields.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
On 1/26/14 2:20 PM, kb9mwr@gmail.com wrote:
It would be interesting to hear more about how those other BGP announced chunks of 44net are using the space.
My segment 44.98.254.0/24 is being used for one PtP data link now, and some asterisk based repeater controllers. I have email for kb9mci.net on it (but need to get SWIP/PTR going Brian ;).
My intent is to fire up some of the doodle labs 23cm link cards as we get another repeater site and link it over on that space. As this grows over the next couple years it will be quite a high speed data network with VoIP as the primary purpose. Doing all the RF links in the ham bands is part of the fun. (anyone have a OFDM rated 20-30 watt amp for 23cm that's not $2k?)
One of the pet peeves I've have is not being able to access the other AMPR net space with out tunnels. I think tunnels are just an ugly hack IMO. I'd like to see us transition into more of a regionally routed network, rather than the few BGP nets and UCSD gateway. Well aware of how much time this would take I'm not ready to write up a proposal just yet (ampRFC?).
If anyone wants a subnet I'd be happy to route it to you, as I'm not using the whole /24 and won't be for some time. Global routing policies being what they are, a /24 is the smallest subnet you can announce.
My interest lies in high speed networks, and see little to no value in 9600 baud IP networks in 2014 :)
73's
-- Bryan Fields
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Message: 2 Date: Mon, 27 Jan 2014 12:06:01 -0600 From: kb9mwr@gmail.com To: "44net@hamradio.ucsd.edu" 44net@hamradio.ucsd.edu Subject: Re: [44net] amprnet portal Message-ID: < CAK4XxyT5f_UxV5CpzHRX9O0QEtUbGxD0txexZHGRDQTTdA_9yg@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
Brian,
Interesting, thanks for sharing.
Amplifiers are something I really think the ham community needs to think about.
They exist, but like you say, but at outrageous prices. i.e.:
http://www.shireeninc.com/300-500mhz-20-watts-outdoor-amplifier/
I have been reading Dubus magazine (focused on microwave), hoping to read more data oriented construction articles.
I am much in the same line of thinking. 1200 and 9600 is really not worth re-deploying in 2014. The regulatory landscape needs some major changes so that manufactures can put something different in the hands of many.
Steve
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