Greetings,
On Mon, 27 Jan 2014, Bill Vodall wrote:
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I too would like to see a routed approach - all this clumsy tunnelling house of cards junk is never going to be reliable.
Naaaa...... :( A giant step backwards.
Seems to me it's the other way... With tunnel's, if one station goes down all the other gateways persist. With the BPG routed system, the gateway is another weak link in the routing chain. What happens if the BPG gateway goes down - every station down stream is isolated. I've heard there's provisions for alternate gateways - but is that being used here?
What we have now, with IPIP Encap (protocol 4) is a FULLY MESHED network. How much better can you get than a network that speaks DIRECTLY gateway to gateway with NO intermediate hops??? Isn't this one of the benefits of HSMM-Mesh in that any node that has a path to another node can continue to pass traffic when other nodes have failed?
I have never understood why so many people can't seem to wrap their heads around IPIP Encap? It is SOOOOooooo easy to use. The drawback seems to be *cheap junk* consumer gateway routers that have no understanding of protocols other than TCP and UDP. IPIP-Encap is NOT TCP and is a protocol unto itself, and so many cheap routers have no idea how to just pass these packets.
I would like to keep the IPIP Encap network in place. If others wish to terminate a large block of addresses into one node, then pass those routes via some other networking protocol into their geographical/political regions, then that is their choice.
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