Roger,
You didn't read Rob's email closely.
Don't put ampr.org in the google search, Search google for "site:ampr.org"
Over 5000 things are returned. And they aren't dead (at least the ones I tried)
Things appear normal to me.
Google has been demoting the page rank over the years of sites that aren't mobile friendly, don't have links to the site, etc. I suspect that is why they don't show up as prominently as the wiki and portal, when using a non specific search.
Once you have verified your domain property with google, you can add it to their search console, and it will show you problems with your site, as well as page rank, visits etc.
https://search.google.com/search-console/about
Steve, KB9MWR
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On Sat, May 4, 2019 at 4:06 PM Roger va7lbb@rezgas.com wrote:
Rob, When I put ampr.org in the google search almost all come back as first the TLD and wiki. The others are sites talking about ampr.org and the group that are subdomains are old dead links.
As I said in the first email, I did consult the google search console and submitted the site. I’ve submitted the site and Brian was kind enough to add. a TXT line (as per google search console) with the code proving I have the right to submit the domain. That is several weeks ago and the search console shows it attempted to crawl. Googles server now (unlike years ago) honor request to not crawl. It attempted the crawl and declined to proceed. You probably know that it’s nearly impossible to contact google for support. Therein lies my luck to have a friend that could look behind the scene at the google server. His answer is that this is not a google problem but an issue with some sort of blocking at the TLD. He just can’t tell what that is except, the google crawler is being told to not crawl subdomains in some way.
All I was asking was that if someone more knowledgeable than me with access to the DNS could see what possibly would cause this denial.
Have a careful look through the google search response to ampr.org. There are none.
Roger. VA7LBB On May 4, 2019, at 02:19, Rob Janssen pe1chl@amsat.org wrote:
My friend at google isn’t 100% sure what’s happening
That is very obvious! Maybe you should consult the google search engine itself, instead of your friend.
Enter this in the Google search bar: site:ampr.org
This returns 17700 results of all kinds of different sites below .ampr.org. You see the domain names xxxx.ampr.org listed in the results.
So there really is no problem indexing ampr.org sites.
I think what you encounter is the difficulty to add a NEW site to the index, not any generic problem with .ampr.org. They probably aren't that eager to add a new site, of which you specify only a start URL, to their index. And rightly so. That capability was likely abused widely.
Instead, you should (ask to) put links to your site from other sites relevant to the subject of your own site. E.g. the page of your local club, other people's private sites, etc. Then, after some time, indexing will occur.
Rob
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