6 Feb
2021
6 Feb
'21
5:37 p.m.
That is a misunderstanding about how the proposed new core network is working.
It does NOT preclude the use of individual tunnels between friends, and it does NOT
preclude
the announcement of a private /24 on internet using BGP.
It is a method to facilitate easier connection for those that do not have the luxury
of a static IP and incoming IPIP passing through their ISP router. That is becoming more
and more
common, and a solution is required not to lock out those that cannot have a suitable
internet
connection. Even VPS offerings from major providers all over the world no longer are
capable
of participating in the IPIP tunnel mesh directly, as their "control panel
firewall" only allows
TCP and UDP ports to be opened incoming (replies on outgoing traffic are usually
allowed).
Furthermore, the new core network allows people all over the world to have connection
with
internet when they want that, with round-trip times and packet loss rates that are usable
for
applications like voice protocols (VoIP, D-Star, DMR, Fusion etc), without being FORCED to
do
a BGP announcement for that. It is more or less a standardization of service already
offered
in some places of the world (e.g. here in the Netherlands) so that everyone can use that
kind
of connection, not just those that happen to live in an area where this is already
deployed.
But when someone wants to do it "the old way", they still can do that.
Rob
On 2/6/21 4:09 AM, Boudewijn (Bob) Tenty via 44Net wrote:
You act or it is already decided. There are also
clearly disadvantages of what some have proposed and I don't
talk about backups of ucsd to Internet, what is good. No, it is that it makes amprnet
gateways more (or totally) dependent on
other core (ARDC) routers to route to other amprnet gateways over Internet. It
doesn't make it less dependent,
it adds another layer on top of that. Presently, I'm more or less independent with my
individual tunnels (and I care
less that they are using ipip or another protocol) or when I should be running bgp.
Instead that the risk is spread,
it will be more concentrated with these proposals what I have read here and at the 44NGN
list. This all to make
it more easier? I'm already providing a lot of these services.
Bob VE3TOK
On 2021-02-05 09:59, Rob PE1CHL via 44Net wrote:
Hopefully the "new core network" will
be deployed "soon" so that indivuduals have no need to route
a subnet via BGP just to get short roundtriptime to internet. It will make it much
easier to be connected
to AMPRnet and internet without having to know and handle all that BGP related
information.
Rob
On 2/5/21 3:38 PM, Angelo via 44Net wrote:
--
When you change the way you look at things, the things you look at change
Max Planck
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